nonhog
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Very nice! Looks OEM.
MP&C Shop Projects
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stinkity stoink
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One of those things nobody would ever know without telling them. Looks factory !!
xtremek
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Always a treat to see what you do. It'd be fun to do at least a seat of the pants dyno run to see how much of an improvement it makes.
larry4406
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That is a clever trick Robert and exquisitely done! Never seen that one or even thought of it!
I know some of the big block Mopars back in the day went from a single snorkel to a dual snorkel air cleaner so the same concept now that I think about it.
I know some of the big block Mopars back in the day went from a single snorkel to a dual snorkel air cleaner so the same concept now that I think about it.
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Bowtie4life
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Robert you do awesome work and love to see your work in progress as you make it look so simple and I know it isn't.
Rockable
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Sweet work as usual, Robert! When will the new engine get installed?
Merry Christmas to you, Liz and Stacy!
Merry Christmas to you, Liz and Stacy!
Picked up the paint for it, but waiting on the new transmission adapter plate to get all the parts attached. The MDL adapter was the wrong thickness for the bell housing we’re using so we have one being made at a local machine shop. I had called MDL about making one thicker, but they said I’d have to order qty of 25. Merry Christmas!!
Getting some of the wiring done behind the dash and adding the interconnect ducts between the defrost vents. This made it glaringly obvious that the speaker grille that covers this hole would show the unsightly mess behind.
We had picked up some pre-painted aluminum sheet from the local stock car supply, and here we cut out a poster-board template.
which was used as a pattern to cut out the aluminum sheet.
We found the finish a bit too shiny for what was intended to mimic a shadow, so a DA and 1000 grit Sunmight foam pad toned things down a bit.
This should do the trick..
We had picked up some pre-painted aluminum sheet from the local stock car supply, and here we cut out a poster-board template.
which was used as a pattern to cut out the aluminum sheet.
We found the finish a bit too shiny for what was intended to mimic a shadow, so a DA and 1000 grit Sunmight foam pad toned things down a bit.
This should do the trick..
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zmotorsports
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Robert your work continues to impress and bewilder me. Well done on both the concealment through the grille and the air cleaner turned out as good as OEM.
Merry Christmas to you and your family Robert.
Merry Christmas to you and your family Robert.
67CarGuy
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Not only do you make this stuff look easy, you share it with us so we can try it ourselves! Thanks!!
Merry Christmas!!
Merry Christmas!!
Merry Christmas and best wishes to all who contribute to one of the best threads on Garage Journal. There are only a few threads that I make a point of reading almost every day, and this is one of them.
I have only taken up metal working relatively recently, but have learned plenty here from Robert and the many questions others here have posed that I would never have thought to ask myself.
I have only taken up metal working relatively recently, but have learned plenty here from Robert and the many questions others here have posed that I would never have thought to ask myself.
Back at'cha! Merry Christmas!
Swanny1953
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Merry Christmas and keep the projects rolling!! Thanks so much for sharing - we all benefit from it!!
jimkinney
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Very nice on the air cleaner. Back in the day we would just cut moan holes in the back.
We're still plugging along with the wiring on the wagon, a couple minor details to finish that part up. I was at a local body shop to order some paint matching the state of Maryland's 1955 license plates for the one we're restoring for the wagon. The shop owner asked if I could make some patches for a step van that is in his shop for repairs.
At some point in its life someone had made previous repairs, adding an aluminum cover to mask the rust beneath. He wanted some weld-in versions in steel.
Some dies were made for the Lennox, using the same upper die but two different flavors for the bottom. One would have straight flanges top and bottom for the "rocker", and the other would have one 90* flange for a wheel arch and the outer door steps.
Note in the above picture the lower die with flat flanges has the support wings cut about 3 degrees upward. With the forming that takes place a flat die would tend to have the flanges dropped slightly from a spring back effect. These upward supports help to counter any spring back effect and ensure the flanges are perfectly flat.. sample:
Enough practice, here's a Video of the process:
At some point in its life someone had made previous repairs, adding an aluminum cover to mask the rust beneath. He wanted some weld-in versions in steel.
Some dies were made for the Lennox, using the same upper die but two different flavors for the bottom. One would have straight flanges top and bottom for the "rocker", and the other would have one 90* flange for a wheel arch and the outer door steps.
Note in the above picture the lower die with flat flanges has the support wings cut about 3 degrees upward. With the forming that takes place a flat die would tend to have the flanges dropped slightly from a spring back effect. These upward supports help to counter any spring back effect and ensure the flanges are perfectly flat.. sample:
Enough practice, here's a Video of the process:
Ohmthis
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Robert, I assume that you always keep the tooling that is made. Do you label them, code them, and store them for future? I can see that you may never use that again for that exact part, but it might be made into another piece. Great work as always!
Any more work on the shop truck?
Any more work on the shop truck?
alwaysFlOoReD
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How big is your shop? I've been following along for a couple years and it seems I see a new to me machine fairly often.
Next on the Metro list, as can be seen in the above pictures, is the need for patches for the wheel arches. We started with a paper pattern to capture the bead details and transferred that to the sheet metal using the trusty ice pick.
Once cut out, the lower flange was hammered over by hand and then stretched using the linear stretch dies in the Lennox.
Then run through the shaping dies, the folded flange acts as the guide for the dies.
Video (sped up to shorten the time span) :
Once cut out, the lower flange was hammered over by hand and then stretched using the linear stretch dies in the Lennox.
Then run through the shaping dies, the folded flange acts as the guide for the dies.
Video (sped up to shorten the time span) :
xtremek
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Wait, what happened to the Divco? I thought it was next on the "to-do" list.
Bowtie4life
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Awesome work as usual!!!
BigMike782
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What material do you use for your dies?
BigMike782
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Ok, I have a bunch of H-13 and I was going to offer some if it worked.
The radius at the bottom of either end of the wheel arches was a bit too tight for the dies in their standard form, I had to add a relief and neglected to get pictures..
To make room, the die was modified using a portaband to cut an X pattern, then a small screwdriver to bend the center tang back and forth until it broke free.
After the wheel arches, we had one more area to fabricate, the step going into the side doors.
Time to modify the bottom die again...
Then we started with an 8" wide piece with a 90 folded down the middle, using a .25R die. The fold was held in snug against the back of the die to act as our guide. Cut off piece was saved in case we need to weld it back on for another set of wheel arches..
These will be trimmed on the bottom to match the adjacent patches, somewhere along the sharpie mark.
To make room, the die was modified using a portaband to cut an X pattern, then a small screwdriver to bend the center tang back and forth until it broke free.
After the wheel arches, we had one more area to fabricate, the step going into the side doors.
Time to modify the bottom die again...
Then we started with an 8" wide piece with a 90 folded down the middle, using a .25R die. The fold was held in snug against the back of the die to act as our guide. Cut off piece was saved in case we need to weld it back on for another set of wheel arches..
These will be trimmed on the bottom to match the adjacent patches, somewhere along the sharpie mark.
Bowtie4life
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Awesome work as usual Robert. You a metal master when it comes to reproducing panels.
bugnut
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your work amazes!stinkity stoink
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Do you always make the die out of metal? I thought I saw you make them out of something else also. I’m wondering if one is better than the other
Bowtie4life
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Robert can you show me one of your phenolic dies?
Bowtie4life
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Thanks Robert.........now I know what they look like!!!! You can learn something everyday watching your work.
Hellpig
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Wouldn't have been a period correct boat hooked to this yesterday, would it?
Love them both, just looked RIGHT!
I was showing off my father-in-law’s handiwork, a boat he built from scratch. The outboard is a 1959 vintage, and the boat plans were from the same era. Here’s a picture I took after the show yesterday…..,
…….but it’s hard to capture the badassery of that mahogany without standing in the truck bed. Here’s one in the sunlight.
…….but it’s hard to capture the badassery of that mahogany without standing in the truck bed. Here’s one in the sunlight.
Hellpig
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Yup, woodwork was stunning.
Wife said, " Only YOU send more time at a car show looking at boats and tractors than cars!"
My Dad had an old Merc Tower of Power on a wooden skiff a LONG time ago. But honestly, doesn't FEEL that long ago, lol, so I MUST be old
Wife said, " Only YOU send more time at a car show looking at boats and tractors than cars!"
My Dad had an old Merc Tower of Power on a wooden skiff a LONG time ago. But honestly, doesn't FEEL that long ago, lol, so I MUST be old
Bowtie4life
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Well all I can say is that is absolutely beautiful wood work for sure. They don't make them like that anymore. I love the old Criss craft boats from that era too.