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Snaparxon

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I bought this little box and 3 sockets from a member on Tool Talk, it arrived in the mail yesterday from New York and I was lucky enough to find the T-bar and 5 sockets including the 8 point sockets yesterday afternoon. I had the ratchet, posted above, and went back were I found it and scrounged throught a ton of tools to find the tools I did. According to the 1948 P&C catalog I'm only missing the 1/4" and 3/8" sockets.IMG_0676.JPGIMG_0677.JPGIMG_0678.JPG
 
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jabberwoki said:
this must be some other maker right?

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Extremely rare P&C double-horn blacksmith anvil - tools - by owner - sale - craigslist

Just try to find one…I haven’t been able to for any price! So this one is still a bit of a mystery as to its production date and its comparable value. It looks like a mid to late 1800’s...
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That anvil was made in the Ardennes region of France. Pretty sure no relationship to our P&C. I see the Albany swap was good to you on the boards.
 
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Pair of P&C 1276 pliers. I found them in a 1963 catalog, but the catalog doesn't show the extra holes by the pivot.
 

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Hey I’m pretty new to collecting but I got into P&C because some of the first stuff I took home to clean was older P&C. Upon doing research I found out they started not far from me in Idaho. Anyways here are some my recent local finds in BOISE. The older combos are the most P&C I’ve ever found in one place! I’m missing just 136 out of the ignition set.
 

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Outlawmws said:
That's a nice start!
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Yeah now I have to try and finish the set! I do have an assortment of the “later” wrenches and sockets but these old ones are simple and beautiful(possibly hand forged molybdenum?) Here are some other items…
 

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Private Lugnutz

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...the ignition set.
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Love that pouch! I have a collection of ignition sets, including all kinds of rollups (leatherette, oilcloth, vinyl, etc), multiple mfgrs/brands and styles, and that's the first time I have ever seen one stowage-marked with the classic configuration, deliberately showing how each milled opening size in the range is afforded both access angles (15* and 60*). Very cool.

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I’m missing just 136 out of the ignition set.
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I looked through my stash of miscellaneous orphans. No dice.
 
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I looked through my stash of miscellaneous orphans. No dice.
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Hey, @GemState10ER
This was nagging at me all night, because I was sure I had found a couple years ago, and it was nagging at me even more this morning when I searched the thread on "ignition" and found this old post of mine. Not only did I find a couple, but one of them was the No. 136! I had it stowed it with some other orphan Plomb and Proto ignition wrenches in a box where I keep all my Plomb-related tiny wrenches and 9/32-drive stuff together. If you want it to complete that pouched set, PM me.

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Private Lugnutz said:
Hey, @GemState10ER
This was nagging at me all night, because I was sure I had found a couple years ago, and it was nagging at me even more this morning when I searched the thread on "ignition" and found this old post of mine. Not only did I find a couple, but one of them was the No. 136! I had it stowed it with some other orphan Plomb and Proto ignition wrenches in a box where I keep all my Plomb-related tiny wrenches and 9/32-drive stuff together. If you want it to complete that pouched set, PM me.

20251213_073141.jpgAh haaa! That would be the one!! Funny thing is when I found it someone had filled the missing spot with a Blue Point Supreme. I will message you.
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Thanks to Private Lugnutz this is COMPLETED! This well traveled P&C 136 wrench went from Oregon to the East Coast and then back west to Idaho(where it all started). We were worried it may have gotten lost along the way but it made it! I’ve had a lot of fun collecting and trading in 2025. Hope everyone is having a good start to 2026. I owe you one Lug!
 

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Got these from Mr.Tim in Northern Idaho. My only pebbled P&C and it’s a big one, a little bent but it just adds character haha.
 

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Outlawmws said:
Always got to wonder what it took to bend or break the really big tools

I have a Plvmb 1" ratchet that someone busted the gears inside - fixed with a rebuild kit but :wtf: Sucker weights 12 lbs!
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I remember once we needed to remove an old 3" pipe that was 10' long that was above our heads. We used a 48" pipe wrench with a 6' cheater. Then three of us hung on it with the biggest guy on the end. It didn't budge until we bounced up and down. We actually put a twist down the length of the pipe. Eventually it unscrewed. (Was just thinking how long ago that was. 1975? About 50 years ago! I'm getting old).
 
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Here's a wrench I thought was interesting
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To say the least! Not unique (I have some Blue-Point S-9xxx series) but not exactly common as a pattern across the industry. In fact, whenever I find a single offset single box end in the wild, the other end is usually chopped, and most of those modders probably started life as a DBE. But if there's any manufacturer I could say I would almost expect it from in the 1930's it would be P&C. Their fixation for funky box ends goes back to their early days when they offered a very wide variety of 6- and 12-point single box socket wrenches with all kinds of bends. And just like Mossberg and Walden, they were happy to continue to make them in parallel to and well after they started making detachable socket wrenches and tools.

Yours came in a set from 7/16" (2314) to 1-5/8" (2352).

Nice find.
 
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Found this 19” long 2242 yesterday! I was going to pick up a Plomb wrench off marketplace and when I got there they showed me some more tools they had in shed. I saw this in pile and knew exactly what it was. Didn’t want to act too excited 😆
 

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GemState10ER said:
Found this 19” long 2242 yesterday! I was going to pick up a Plomb wrench off marketplace and when I got there they showed me some more tools they had in shed. I saw this in pile and knew exactly what it was. Didn’t want to act too excited 😆
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Hee Hee ...looks like someones hooked lol.
If your ever down Puyallup way i`ll hook you up with all my extras.
 
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Private Lugnutz said:
Haha. I was thinking it was "Eric Brown"! (Those are sandhogs in NYC, not miners, but I get the Jimmy Dean ref!) :)
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Nice. I would be the smallest man. 5'6" and 110lbs. I'm not a big guy. However, when I went to South Korea I was taller than most the Korean men. Still, leverage can beat strength.
 
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