M.Brane
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"Everything is harder than it looks."
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Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
bugnut
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homersdepot has a full set of transfer punches for 20usd, chop them up at that price. Also if easier transfer screws to go the other way. Lastly a 3d printed piece can suffice to provide hole locations or even easier used to align a drill bushing to put holes in the proper place once the transfer punch marking is completed.
good luck!
good luck!
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86turbodsl
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i got a transfer punch from mcmaster that looks like it works fine. I am hoping to get that done tonight and thinking of just using some plate and the mag drill to punch holes. They just need to be vertical and roughly in place. the pilot on the bellhousing fits quite nice.
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86turbodsl
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So bit of an update. Ended up not getting the holes transferred. I did try to get the engine mounted on the engine stand, but failed as the mounting holes are all right around the crank flange, and none of the positions for the stand line up or make sense. I might have to put the bellhousing on the engine and then mount to stand, but i think even that might not work due to the diameter of a SAE#2 pattern. Might have to fab something.
Also there is increasing pressure from my management team to have my team go to an overseas assignment, which everyone on my team is fighting back on. My wife said the AC has to be fixed prior to going overseas. Non negotiable. So i spent some time this weekend working on plumbing for that. This summer looks to be a whirlwind.
Also there is increasing pressure from my management team to have my team go to an overseas assignment, which everyone on my team is fighting back on. My wife said the AC has to be fixed prior to going overseas. Non negotiable. So i spent some time this weekend working on plumbing for that. This summer looks to be a whirlwind.
kent_323is
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How long would the overseas assignment be?
Can you share where?
I lived in Shanghai for 5.5 years, and travelled around to Korea, Japan, Taiwan as well as in China. Reach out if you want any insights.
I found that being away helped bring some clarity. It's also good from a work standpoint, so don't push back too hard.
Can you share where?
I lived in Shanghai for 5.5 years, and travelled around to Korea, Japan, Taiwan as well as in China. Reach out if you want any insights.
I found that being away helped bring some clarity. It's also good from a work standpoint, so don't push back too hard.
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86turbodsl
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They are pushing for 1M +. We think we can negotiate down to 2W. Asia is all i say for now.
I am very tightly integrated into my property and family. If i am away, things just don't get done.
Asking my family to just make do without me there when i fill so many roles is a great hardship.
And no i don't have a handy man or equivalent on speed dial.
The reaction might be - your life is too complex, or you have too many things going on, why can't you simplify?
Its just where we are right now, integrated into our property and our interests. We don't travel, vacation, etc. We enjoy our time
in our home and property and the quiet and peace that country life tends to bring. And that means mowing, tinkering in shop and house, spending time together just watching a video or whatever. All activities in the home.
I am very tightly integrated into my property and family. If i am away, things just don't get done.
Asking my family to just make do without me there when i fill so many roles is a great hardship.
And no i don't have a handy man or equivalent on speed dial.
The reaction might be - your life is too complex, or you have too many things going on, why can't you simplify?
Its just where we are right now, integrated into our property and our interests. We don't travel, vacation, etc. We enjoy our time
in our home and property and the quiet and peace that country life tends to bring. And that means mowing, tinkering in shop and house, spending time together just watching a video or whatever. All activities in the home.
bulletpruf
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I did 2 years in Korea. We traveled all over Korea, also went to Beijing, Hong Kong, Bali, Japan, etc. I also spent some time in Singapore and Japan for work.
Happy to provide insights as well.
kent_323is
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@bulletpruf Good to hear your list of Asia places, and that reminded me of additional places that I visited: Hong Kong & Macao, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, and way farther south: New Zealand.
For the Asia side of things, my wife and I always referred to Hong Kong as the "Asia for dummies" as it had high English speaking locals and generally pretty easy to navigate. Singapore was also pretty easy. Japan and Korea are maybe next, some English speaking locals but not quite as easy as HK. China comes in last, although some of the large cities have improved, and smart-phones with apps have helped as well.
My first trip to China was a doozy... by myself, no cell phone (only a calling card) and when I arrived in the airport in Shanghai, there was a taxi driver holding my name on a sign, followed him to the taxi and rode for an hour until I was dropped at the hotel. It was only after that that one of our local guys that had English picked me up to go for a late supper.
My most recent trip to China was in January... pretty easy now.
For the Asia side of things, my wife and I always referred to Hong Kong as the "Asia for dummies" as it had high English speaking locals and generally pretty easy to navigate. Singapore was also pretty easy. Japan and Korea are maybe next, some English speaking locals but not quite as easy as HK. China comes in last, although some of the large cities have improved, and smart-phones with apps have helped as well.
My first trip to China was a doozy... by myself, no cell phone (only a calling card) and when I arrived in the airport in Shanghai, there was a taxi driver holding my name on a sign, followed him to the taxi and rode for an hour until I was dropped at the hotel. It was only after that that one of our local guys that had English picked me up to go for a late supper.
My most recent trip to China was in January... pretty easy now.
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86turbodsl
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Yeah it's Korea. I was there 10 years ago, it was a bit of a challenge. I had a cell phone but of course it wasn't the type they used so it was a little shaky and there were no translation apps. I was alone and managed to get fed. But it wasn't easy at all.
Its not that nobody wants to go, its that we don't want to leave our families for months during the summer/good weather when we live in Michigan and only get that time 6 months out of a year. Not that winter would be any better.
For instance, we have one guy who is lead coach on his kids' team. We have one guy who's wife is fighting cancer. We have one guy who just had a baby. It goes on and on.
The expats they send over just don't get why we can't drop everything and come over. Most of them live in apartments and don't have home maintenance, mowing, stuff like that. If they have to go to America, just pack your bags and go. The wife will just take care of everything. Its just not the same here. And if they're coming for more than a 6 month stint, they bring family. I don't think it's very common for the spouse to even work over there, so they don't even have to quit to come over.
it's just completely different.
Its not that nobody wants to go, its that we don't want to leave our families for months during the summer/good weather when we live in Michigan and only get that time 6 months out of a year. Not that winter would be any better.
For instance, we have one guy who is lead coach on his kids' team. We have one guy who's wife is fighting cancer. We have one guy who just had a baby. It goes on and on.
The expats they send over just don't get why we can't drop everything and come over. Most of them live in apartments and don't have home maintenance, mowing, stuff like that. If they have to go to America, just pack your bags and go. The wife will just take care of everything. Its just not the same here. And if they're coming for more than a 6 month stint, they bring family. I don't think it's very common for the spouse to even work over there, so they don't even have to quit to come over.
it's just completely different.
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bulletpruf
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Never made it to Malaysia, Taiwan, or NZ, but did spend a fair amount of time in Australia for work. Also visited Guam and the Philippines.
Beijing in 2014 was probably our favorite trip; the Great Wall was fantastic. We hired a tour guide for a week, so we didn't have any issues getting around.
bulletpruf
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Decent chance of finding someone who speaks English in Seoul and/or near a U.S. military base, but good luck elsewhere. When we lived where from 2013-2015, the only car GPS that used English was horrible.
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86turbodsl
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Yeah, no work in Seoul sadly. It's pretty bad out in the sticks.
And there will be no spouses.
And there will be no spouses.
bimmer1980
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I can certainly understand that perspective.
Without getting into the objectives and action items that they want for sending you guys over....do they have a defined purpose for the trip? Versus just a nickel tour of facilities? Meet and greet and all that BS... (although, building relationships are important for getting things done)
Generally, while I understand the issues with going, perception and negotiation generally favors the "can do" option versus the "here's all the reasons I can't " attitude. Hence, you may benefit yourself by offering up a time frame and a length of time that would work. "Early acceptance" may give the opportunity to schedule when it works better for you than not. Especially if it allows for selection of the actual travel details, if that matters to you or not.
A month is a long time. While two weeks is lengthy too, it might be doable.
Not to get into your household details, but maybe there is some opportunity to delegate or spread the responsibility out a bit... i.e. load share.
On the flip side, I also recall a few months back that you were worried about staying employed. I would certainly be taking steps to ensure that the primary job and compensation continues as that allows for the other home benefits that you said you enjoy.... even if this trip seems "forced or mandated"
Without getting into the objectives and action items that they want for sending you guys over....do they have a defined purpose for the trip? Versus just a nickel tour of facilities? Meet and greet and all that BS... (although, building relationships are important for getting things done)
Generally, while I understand the issues with going, perception and negotiation generally favors the "can do" option versus the "here's all the reasons I can't " attitude. Hence, you may benefit yourself by offering up a time frame and a length of time that would work. "Early acceptance" may give the opportunity to schedule when it works better for you than not. Especially if it allows for selection of the actual travel details, if that matters to you or not.
A month is a long time. While two weeks is lengthy too, it might be doable.
Not to get into your household details, but maybe there is some opportunity to delegate or spread the responsibility out a bit... i.e. load share.
On the flip side, I also recall a few months back that you were worried about staying employed. I would certainly be taking steps to ensure that the primary job and compensation continues as that allows for the other home benefits that you said you enjoy.... even if this trip seems "forced or mandated"
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86turbodsl
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There is a purpose for the trip, but as usual, it's somewhat vaguely defined. They are not calling it "training" but rather "engineering dispatch" which if you look up the meaning, is "stationed".
If i read them correctly, they want us to go there and live the life for a while. The problems come in the time frame requested. We've already said 2W is the max, and our director agreed to it, but then followed up with "then go back again".
So there's a definite push there we're not going to get out of. If i don't push back, it will be many moons.
I think the job is pretty safe right now, but managing expectations is becoming key.
If i read them correctly, they want us to go there and live the life for a while. The problems come in the time frame requested. We've already said 2W is the max, and our director agreed to it, but then followed up with "then go back again".
So there's a definite push there we're not going to get out of. If i don't push back, it will be many moons.
I think the job is pretty safe right now, but managing expectations is becoming key.
rattle_snake
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I did work travel to asia for awhile including Korea. Only one other engineer would travel. I came back from a trip to find out he and I were the only ones left in the business unit that was 20 or more. Every trip was pitched as a crisis, and seemed to land on holiday weekend. I eventually set boundaries.
The local sales reps would keep us out parting late every night. High end places, crazy bills. Then up at 6 am to do another dog and pony show.
The local sales reps would keep us out parting late every night. High end places, crazy bills. Then up at 6 am to do another dog and pony show.
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86turbodsl
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that sounds very very familiar....
don't get me wrong, Koreans are very very nice people, and super polite and friendly, but the work expectations are just nuts.
don't get me wrong, Koreans are very very nice people, and super polite and friendly, but the work expectations are just nuts.
bulletpruf
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Whenever we had events with our Republic of Korea (ROK) Army counterparts, there was plenty of drankin' involved.
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86turbodsl
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Oh they like their soju...
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86turbodsl
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So i finally got the Hercules up on the engine stand, rolled it over and got the oil pan off. It looks brand new inside. I'm sure very low hours. The part that is broken, which seals up the crankcase appears to be made of pot metal and not weldable. After discussion with the machinist at work, we have decided i will reverse engineer the part in CAD and give him prints and he will make one for me. It will be a little slower but probably a lot easier than locating a 55 year old military engine aluminum part from a defunct manufacturer. We have the skillset. The heat pump plumbing in the house is almost done, and work is crazy right now. Still no plans on travel overseas. We're in a holding pattern.
Red Leader
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What is going on w/ the AC? What needs to be done on it?
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86turbodsl
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We have a ground source heat pump. The entire system pretty much is hydronic. the hx on the gshp sprung a leak and took out the unit. New ones are just stupid expensive so rather than empty my bank account i'm plumbing in an air source heat pump through a heat exchanger. 3 way valves to divert from the existing heat pump to the new hx and at some point i'll pull the old one out and repair.
Before anybody comments on "just write a check..." the UNIT alone is over 10K. Without install. And i have the skillset. I just don't work in the HVAC industry.
Before anybody comments on "just write a check..." the UNIT alone is over 10K. Without install. And i have the skillset. I just don't work in the HVAC industry.
bimmer1980
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Good to hear the progress!!!
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86turbodsl
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Breaking news - not going overseas this year, but bad news is i have to ask 2 of my team to go overseas for a month straight. And none of them can do it.
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86turbodsl
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Got holes transferred tonight. Will setup for mag drill and get er done
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86turbodsl
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Jeez i can't keep up. Travel may be back on again. Doesn't change any of my plans though. Still in get er done mode...
Red Leader
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You sound like you know what you are doing!
Hope the travel stuff for you and your team straightens out so it can stop being a stressor.
Hope the travel stuff for you and your team straightens out so it can stop being a stressor.
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86turbodsl
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Lots of people do! Lol. I may be able to hire someone to help though. Time will tell.
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86turbodsl
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An update on the engine for the genset. The oil pan adapter was broken, closes up the hole around the crank flange to the oil pan. Design is weird, but mine was broken. I was going to make one, but found two on ebay. Those are much cheaper than making.
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86turbodsl
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Working on something else today. Im quite pleased with these tig welds.
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86turbodsl
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Still waiting on the part for the hercules. I sent a message to the seller, who said they were closed last week, it was in the ad, and it would ship shortly. Went back and checked the ad. nothing about closure. Still waiting... It's always something.
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86turbodsl
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The hercules parts showed up. I get why there's 2 now. Front and rear oil pan adapters are the same. The design of this engine is weird. You bolt on the front cover and bellhousing FIRST then the oil pan adapters bolt to those, THEN the oil pan bolts on. Super weird. Anyway, they look like a fit, and gasket material shows up today, so i can get to work. Fixturing the engine will be a problem though because i need to bolt the bellhousing on before the oil pan, i'm not sure how to hold onto the damn thing while i'm working on it.
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86turbodsl
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Well so much for not traveling. Now i'm going to asia 2X in a month. Starting mid-June, then back to USA, then back again a week later. Taking one for the team... fun.
bulletpruf
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Bummer.
But at least you'll rack up a lot of frequent flier miles. When I was stationed in Hawaii and traveling for work a lot, I earned enough miles to take a few free trips.