Vise Info Thread
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CRSINMICH
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KEYSTONE Combination Roller Pipe Vise
Keystone was introduced by Hollands in early 1901.
By June 1901 Keystone introduced a Roller Pipe Vise.
Keystone and Hollands continued to make combination vises for many years
but it appears there was no further mention of Roller Pipe vises.
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CRISINMICH posted this jem:
The "painted" finishes of that time were also toxic. One of the reasons that Stanley's president (Hart) was so well liked by its workers, he stoppedstopped using the poisonous finishes. As usual trivia, I'm unable to point to that statement. Color or lack of color, see the original post, was still being used as a sales point.
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The "painted" finishes of that time were also toxic. One of the reasons that Stanley's president (Hart) was so well liked by its workers, he stopped
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CRSINMICH
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JOHN N. SARGENT VISE, PUNCH, and DRILL
John N. Sargent Manufacturing Company
(Not related to Sargent & Company.)
No.1 Jaw width: 5" Opens to: 8" Weight: 100 lbs.
No.2 Jaw width: 4" Opens to: 8" Weight: 50 lbs.
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Super unique! I’d love to see one in the flesh
JOHN N. SARGENT VISE, PUNCH, and DRILL
John N. Sargent Manufacturing Company
(Not related to Sargent & Company.)
No.1 Jaw width: 5" Opens to: 8" Weight: 100 lbs.
No.2 Jaw width: 4" Opens to: 8" Weight: 50 lbs.
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British Racing Green and Yellow! It's a racing vise!
CRSINMICH
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1901 CUBAN INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL VISE
Sorry, there are no specs but there is an adequate description.
(It's unlikely one of these vises will ever come up in this thread but - just in case.)
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I’m stoked to’ve recently obtained this 1891 Prentiss catalog from a friend of mine. To my knowledge, it’s the earliest OEM Prentiss catalog in private hands.
Full scans can be found here: https://archive.org/details/new-illustrated-catalogue-prentiss-vice-company
Full scans can be found here: https://archive.org/details/new-illustrated-catalogue-prentiss-vice-company
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CRSINMICH
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RENO IMPROVED BENCH VISE
Reno Bench Vise Company of Detroit
Reno produced other clamping devices like a Crispin Bench and Saw Clamp along with hand screws that had metal screws with metal bearings.
I'll have to check my old hand screws to see if any were made by Reno
CRSINMICH
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Member PghJKB provided the 1882 patent for the Reno Vise. I hadn't realized that it was for quick adjust feature. That would be handy on this type of vise. Thanks!
tjpavlov
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I have a Parker 249 that is missing the collar. Does anybody have any advice on sourcing a replacement? I see that ebay sometimes has a few, but they command fairly big money and I am not sure how to size one. I am assuming there were many different collars over the years.
Any advice on alternatives to get the vise back in service?
Any advice on alternatives to get the vise back in service?
KMScott
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Tjp. Here is a blog I made years ago when I was building vise parts. Might help you in finding the correct collar and how to fit it. I’m retired now and enjoying my life on a bridge less island in SC. Kevin
wiltonviseparts.wordpress.com
Charles Parker Collars
Parker Collars like their jaws have to be custom fit. Parker did not make their parts simple. The jaws were all hand fit and stamped with ID numbers to keep them with the right vise where the…
wiltonviseparts.wordpress.com
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CRSINMICH
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Mity 7 Vise
By AMF Float-LOCK
This was a slightly more versatile version of the Float-LOCK drill press vise.
One ad says that it does the work Of 5 different tools and the other mentions the jaws opening "a full 7 inches!"
(I wonder how I ever did without one)
(I actually could have used one this morning but somehow I managed without one).
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Outlawmws
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Not much info on these in the spreadsheet:
Sheldon Turret vise, (apparently made by Wilton per VM...) 22 lbs, 7" wood vise jaws, 3" machine side and 6" opening
Research showed Wilton at least provided the handle in either wood or aluminum, this one has clearly been replaced...
I've also seen them with a clamp on the turret shaft, instead of the bolt setscrew.
Sheldon Turret vise, (apparently made by Wilton per VM...) 22 lbs, 7" wood vise jaws, 3" machine side and 6" opening
Research showed Wilton at least provided the handle in either wood or aluminum, this one has clearly been replaced...
I've also seen them with a clamp on the turret shaft, instead of the bolt setscrew.
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KMScott
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Outlaw got it. Added your Turret vise to the Spreadsheet. Actually had one like yours listed but no spec:s. Thanks
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Oh I wish. A good friend is the owner of this big guy FMC.
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CRSINMICH
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C M Kemp Mfg. Co. was heavily into heating and plumbing in the late 1890s and early 1900s. These extracts from a 1925 Issue of Macraes's Blue Book were from a small print column of Trade Names of all manner of items that their manufacturers named CLIMAX. Kemp seemed to like that name. The last excerpt specifically mentions pipe vises. Nice find
Incidentally, Clarence M. Kemp had an 1891 patent for an "Apparatus for Utilizing the Sun's Rays for Heating Water", but that's another story. Patent number 451384 for anyone interested.
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Kemp / Clarence M. Kemp, Corner of Fayette and Frederick Streets, Baltimore, MD (Corner of Guilford Avenue and Olive Street, Baltimore, MD) / "Climax" Ratchet Wrench and Ratchet Drill, Vise, Seven-Pound Vise /
Mr. Kemp was quite the inventor:
patent 451384 April 28, 1891 "Apparatus for utilizing the sun's rays for heating water"
patent 1069068 July 29 1913 Carbureter
patent 803490 Oct 31 ???? Gas mixer or apparatus for regulating the quality of gas
patent 259549 June 13 1882 Gas Machine
patent 402600 May 7 1889 Expanding plug for closing pipes etc.
Kemp also marketed under the "Climax" name a pipe cutter, a ratchet wrench/drill, a cellar drainer, and a gas generator. The pipe vise was but one of his creations:
Mr. Kemp was quite the inventor:
patent 451384 April 28, 1891 "Apparatus for utilizing the sun's rays for heating water"
patent 1069068 July 29 1913 Carbureter
patent 803490 Oct 31 ???? Gas mixer or apparatus for regulating the quality of gas
patent 259549 June 13 1882 Gas Machine
patent 402600 May 7 1889 Expanding plug for closing pipes etc.
Kemp also marketed under the "Climax" name a pipe cutter, a ratchet wrench/drill, a cellar drainer, and a gas generator. The pipe vise was but one of his creations:
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1908 Hardware C.M. Kemp Mfg. Co. vise ad pp 49.jpg -
1894 Metal Worker Clarence M. Kemp Climax Cellar Drainer ad Jan 13 1894 pp 71.jpg -
1890s Dunham Carrigan & Hayden Co. catalog Kemp Climax Sunset vise ad pp 748.JPG -
1890 Iron Age Kemp Ratchet Wrench and Drill pp 620.jpg -
1890 Iron Age Kemp Rapid Moving Pipe Cutter ad pp 869.jpg
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I got this small vise about a week ago which i won at an auction in ebay. I keep searching in the web about it and only a little info about this vise was found from a welders forum. My small vise looks similar with the posted vise anf it was just bigget than what i have. The only markings i found was the "&" at the rear side of the slide.
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This small vise has a jaw width of 1 13/16 (almost 46mm)
twagler
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That's a very nice vise (or vice as the British spell it). My comment would be that it: (a) looks very old, likely late 1890s or early 1900s, and (b) has a distinct British look, in the way that it is built up from separate smaller castings bolted together. Early Parkinsons also had that appearance. Odd though, that it is unmarked. Here is an advertisement from an 1892 British trade journal for the Alldays company.
Thank you. I've search all the sides of this vise for any posible markings, but cant find anything else. Maybe i have to disassemble the vise and i may be able to find someyhing underneath the slide.
four.cycle
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Alldays / Alldays & Onions Pneumatic Engineering Co. Ltd., Ct. Western Works, Birmingham, England / est. 1885 / vise, machinery / https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Alldays_and_Onions / / https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Alldays_and_Onions_Pneumatic_Engineering_Co /
^ there may be some information of use at gracesguide.co.uk - there is also apparently a "wikipedia" entry for the company.
^ there may be some information of use at gracesguide.co.uk - there is also apparently a "wikipedia" entry for the company.
Thank you.
I have seen that, but no details was mentioned about A&O vises. Its just told that in 1900 A&O became a maker of Roots blowers, smiths' hearths, grind-stones and troughs, vices, stocks, taps, and dies, and moulders', house, and smiths' bellows.
KMScott
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Charles Parker model # 98. 4” jaws that opens to 7-3/4” and weights 48 lbs. this Quick Action Swivel vise was built for Coachmakers.
Thomas Hall was granted patent #140269 (24 June 1873) for this mechanism. Thanks Pgh.
Thomas Hall was granted patent #140269 (24 June 1873) for this mechanism. Thanks Pgh.
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Wilton 106. No Spec:s. Notes from the owner.
I just finished cleaning and polishing this very interesting prototype(?) Wilton I bought from ******* It obviously has the Schiller Park design but does have a few differences. The nut is bronze which is very unusual. The key is not attached to the slide but is held in place by the rear nut. It also has threaded screws in place of the usual pins in the rear nut housing. The jaw bolts alsoappear to be larger than normal. The action on it is very smooth.
I just finished cleaning and polishing this very interesting prototype(?) Wilton I bought from ******* It obviously has the Schiller Park design but does have a few differences. The nut is bronze which is very unusual. The key is not attached to the slide but is held in place by the rear nut. It also has threaded screws in place of the usual pins in the rear nut housing. The jaw bolts alsoappear to be larger than normal. The action on it is very smooth.
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FMC, I’m quoting from the owner. He believes it is a prototype as I do especially how the nut being bronze and how it is held in place. The 106 being cast in the vise body is another sign of first build. Had to add this to the spreadsheet.