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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Bauhaus this house

Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.

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Hi there, long time listener first time caller….

I’ve been a member of the forum for a while and have posted a few times, but haven’t posted a proper intro, so, here it goes.

My name is Jerry I own an MCM with a little garage in the town of Spokane. I’m a techie, part time mechanic, part time beer brewer with a background being a garbage mouthed line cook. Middle age is where I find myself when JoAnna and I bought this house a couple years ago. It was built by William and Dorothy Trogdon. He and his wife built it as their own home in 1963. They used what we call the ‘TV room’ as their drafting studio. Both had notable careers as architects and designers. I just read recently that he passed away last year Nov, 4th. RIP and thanks for a great house!

A little more about the house they built. When I first laid eyes on it, nestled on the hill as it was, with its wide facade with few windows and deep overhangs, I knew it was something different/special. Lots of Bauhaus influence, I thought. Sure enough, Bill had studied under Walter Gropius, the founder of the Bauhaus.

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You can see that influence in the layout of the floors and placement of windows and doors. In how the doors are trimmed in relation to the walls they’re on. Imagine a De Stijl painting with the repeating rectangular shapes, black outlines and color scheme. You get the idea.

The ‘less is more’ mantra with form following function and all of that.

With that said, it’s an older house and needs some care. Some of the construction back then would NOT meet code today, so we’re slowly working on getting things sorted out. Decks, I’m looking at you. For now, it’s fine and surprisingly warm and cozy in the winter and cool and mild in the summer. Good design is good design.

The ugly wart on the nose of this house is the garage. The door was falling apart. It’s a dark, miserable little space with barely enough room for two cars (small cars). I could not imagine that this is what the designers of this house had originally envisioned. As it turns out, it was not.

Here’s some pictures of the garage when we bought it Oct 2019.

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As you can see, it’s pretty small and dark. The floor is in pretty good shape but does have some issues. I think it’s been mentioned in other threads about these kinds of houses having small garages. Well, here it is with a couple of the cars in it. Jo says the cars fit. Just don’t open the doors!

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Before we closed on the house, the realtor let us know a set of working drawings from the architect were included. Nice! Since moving in, we have spent hours going over every detail and note. And because the house had been through just a handful of owners, we were able to get a feel for what each of them did based on when the work was done (date stamps on materials), the quality of work and the number of Coors cans found. More on that later. The drawings then, have turned into the ultimate reference and we go back to them all the time.

Here is the drawing for the basement floor which includes the garage:

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From this you can see the garage was originally bigger on the inside than it is today. One of the POs had built a wall between what’s labeled the Entry Hall and the Garage making a storage room of some sort. The oddity of the room didn't sit right with me.

The POs had used this space as a mud room/workout room/utility room something? As things go with houses, it had evolved significantly from the time the Trogdon's built it to the time they sold it in 1983. Then again over the years with new owners remodeling and such. Some changes good, like some decks and the sauna and some misses, like this room. This leads me to the plan. That is, to knock that wall down and add that space back to the garage. It'll be nice to have the extra space for a little shop. Of course, this will involve some demo, then clean up, and wiring, painting and new cabinets. And not necessarily in that order. You'll see. First things first, is finding out if that's a load bearing wall.

What will I be doing in the garage once I've got the extra room? Well, there's the '89 911 C4 that I'm always working on, a '76 BMW 2002 I'm restoring for Jo and the EV from GM....that is now parked outside until it gets a new battery pack. There's usually some small project here or there that needs doing. Such as the new walnut wall sconces we made to replace the old beat up lamps that lit the stairway in the house. In the queue are some 3d printed parts for the 911. Then larger projects to support work on the 2002. Anyone know anything about restoring old BMW automatic transmissions?

So, there it is, I hope you don’t mind coming along for the ride. My hope is that I can get the garage sorted out, make it my own and also respect to the original design.
 
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As an architect, I'm very happy to see your engagement and research into this house! I studied many Gropius designs while going to school years ago in Boston. I'd love to see the full floor plans of this if you can post them! Very cool project!
 
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Thanks guys and happy to ablige! These were the drawings for the magazine it was in. The house now has decks all around the back and sides. The open space above the living room had been filled in by the Trogdons to make a couple more bedrooms for their growing family. It's on my list of things I might want to revert. Dr Klaun, I'll have to take better pictures of the actual plans. The ones I've got right now must have been taken without my glasses on!

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I’d mentioned earlier that I did not follow a particular order working on this garage. I think things should be done in the right order. Whatever that is, when remodeling the garage, I’m sure I did it backwards. Or sideways?

There were things I could do and things I wanted to do. Some of them could be done now while others had to wait. JoAnna is the arbiter for anything that requiring finances in excess of the cost of a Big Mac. Naturally this meant the garage door was done first.

It was ratty, falling apart, had a hole in it and really scared me to either open or close it. It had to go.

Since the house is on the historic register, I had to contact the admin for the Preservation Society and submit a form notifying them of the change I’d be making which included pictures of the new garage door along with color swatches. I even included a photoshopped picture of the house with the new door on it. I think I spent more time on that than it took to actually install the new door. All went well and quickly approved because I was only changing the door out and not closing the garage in to make a bedroom down there or something silly like that.

In another week the installer showed up with the new door. That day, I was pretty busy with the office so I didn’t get to hang out and chat with the installer while he worked. You know, all installers LOVE it when home owners do this….so of course, I wanted to do this. But could not….rats. I did get to witness the old door finally give up the ghost when the installer opened the door, for what would be its last time. The spring for the opener decided to lose a bolt which caused it to simultaneously unspool, releasing all that tension, and shooting the whole door down into the floor of the garage nearly exploding into splinters!

All of this, not caught on video or anything.

After checking for injuries, none, the rest of the install went without incident.
However, as I mentioned, I was ******* on conference calls, so no pictures of the tear down or install of the new door. Hopefully before and after shots are okay. It’s just a garage door after all. But oh, what a difference it made. I like new stuff that works!
And with the new opener, so quiet!

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After:

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Insulated and all that good jazz. New Chamberlin Wifi smart opener completes the package. No more nightmares when opening or closing this baby.
 

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Thanks for the plans! The interior feel would definitely change a lot by opening the living room space back up to a two story volume. They must have been packed in there with 4-5 bedrooms! That in itself shows how our lifestyles have changed over the decades to much larger spaces, especially kitchens.
 

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I've always wanted an MCM (or variant). I love the style and design, but would look REALLY out of place where I put my home currently.

OP, aren't you on The Vortex?
 

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I love the look of the house, and a pretty cool area of the country. My parents live in NW Montana, a few hours from you.

One of my favorite things about the MCM design is the openness. Routinely you find that kind of nod to the outdoors and light and air and all that. Being in the location it's in, with the landscaping it has, beautiful.

Can't wait to see how this all develops. Bring us along for the house and garage please!
 
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Hey Metallitubby, yup, on The Vortex too but not very much. Used to be very busy in the PNW section, but that died out a long time ago.
Now I just go there for the chuckles, cause, you know...

Thanks for the comments all. And yeah, the Trogdens did build at least two more rooms upstairs where the master bedroom is now. Bringing the total at the time to 5 bedrooms, maybe 6 based on some of the drywall patching I've seen. In the end, when we bought it, there are just 4 bedrooms. The two rooms that were added were combined into a large master suite with attached sauna.

Were planning the kitchen remodel along with the bathrooms and the garage. None of them have been touched since the early 90's.
Part of the reason we got a smoking deal on the price of the house!

Speaking of the garage we had gotten an update on the 2002 that had been at the paintshop for about a year. We had told them no rush as we were buying the new house and moving out of the old. They definitely took their time....lol. That was okay since we didn't have anywhere to put the car. The 2002 was coming along nicely though:

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It's a '76 square tail. Since it's Jo's it's staying an automatic but will have some nice Tii bodywork, fuel injection and brand new interior.
She also wanted a nice clean body without alot of the trim. Also opted to change the color from Chamonix to Tiaga.
Last of the body work included shaving the US bumper holes so we could go with the Turbo airdam and install a euro rear bumper.

Since it was getting close to being shot with paint, we had to step up the pace on the garage cleanup.

These ugly and dangerous shelves had to go!
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@mike93lx, thanks! The 911 likes the house too. It's leaving it mark as usual for an aircooled. Not sure how everyone feels around here about naming their cars...but this one's name is Heidi. I've had her for 6 years now. The 2002 we've had for only 4. I post about Betty here.
I love that car and can't wait to get it back on the road again.
 

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Welcome mate. What a gorgeous looking mid century house. Great to see it in the hands of someone who appreciates it is for what it is, and will repair and update it sympathetically to its style. Would love to see some interior shots and how the view is captured from those beautiful windows. Loving the Porsche and BMW too.
 

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restoring old BMW auto transmissions is actually really simple. all you need to do is put it in the skip, and buy a manual box and an extra pedal.

Only joking, i know you mentioned its for your partner, should still make it manual though.

House looks great, you don't really see many of the MCM style houses here which is a shame.
 

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Woohoo! I don't know what I'm more excited about, the MCM house or the Porsche/BMW content. Gropius is good, but taiga BMW makes everything better
Looking forward to more updates
 
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Hehe, yep, love me some Peter Murphy, big fan.

@Ben, trying to find an ****** shop that does old ZF automatics is proving impossible. At least around here. It'll likely be another thing I'll have to learn to do myself. I was in pretty good shape, but since I'm restoring the car, it would be nice to make sure the transmission is as good as everything else.

And @kwyjibo, I've been following your Denver MCM thread for a long time now! Many thanks for sharing what you've done and are doing. Very inspiring! And yes, when Jo and I saw our first Tiaga 2002 in person we were like, 'we have to have something like that....' And sure enough:

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Thanks @Denwood ! Love your garage so far! I hope you keep the brick back there. I like that esthetic.
The little BMW is a fam favorite too. And honestly, it got more thumbs up when she drove it around than my 911 ever does! LOL. So, the sooner I get the 2002 back on the road the better! Which leads to THE delivery.

After a year of having the car, Anthony from the paint shop called and said it was done and they wanted it gone. Just like Christmas, the Easter bunny and a birthday all happened at once! Jo and I hauled **** over to inspect the results. To say she was pleased was an understatement! She had a grin literally from ear to ear. It’s one of those moments in a husband’s life where you can easily say, money well spent.

I said "great! when can you drop it off?" To which Anthony replied “how about right now?”....uh, okay, so here we go!

As the car was put on the trailer, I got a sick feeling. You know, that sensation that something ain’t right. While playing out in my head how the car would fit into the garage is when I realized, this thing is not getting up our hill or driveway! I explained this to Anthony as he was about leave. He simply said “don’t worry, I got this.”

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After a single drive by to get the lay of the land, he drove it up the hill, put it in reverse and carefully, skillfully backed it up the driveway. Just one or two scrapes of the trailer and it was over!

Here she is, safely tucked into the garage….sorry for the mess. The wooden shelves really had to go. And they did. Eventually.

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So, now with Betty home the garage was full with no good storage solution. Just about everything was either on the floor, piled up on wire racks or in a shed on the side of the house. Things had to improve.
 

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Those autotrans are a piece of cake, don't let the Emission stations have you rev them in neutral or park!!!!
 

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Awesome, the house still looks great, I look at the new subdivisions everywhere around me and even after six years the homes start looking really dated and run down.

I'm working on my deck now, it looks very similar but the 4 x 4 supports scare the heck out of me so I'm beefing it all up to code. Decks are fun these days since the outdoor experience is more popular than ever and there's a million options to make it an open living area.

Good luck and I agree with the others, go manual, my little 1.8 E30 is my funnest car, even though it's tiny, it flies with the manual.
 
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Father’s Day this year, Jo gifted me a set of cabinets from Husky. Bestest woman ever! They are just as good as the set of NewAge cabinets I had at the old house at a similar price. A good deal. They came in black and a bamboo work top plus a billion sets of keys. The same key. For every door. Keys for days.

It took us a day to clear out the old wood shelf monstrosity and dump it along with some junk we didn’t need anymore. Then I noodled for way too long how and where I’d put them. Given the floorplan should have been a simple ‘no duh’ decision, but for some reason I hemmed and hawed for a couple days.

Here’s the layout of the garage and where I decided to put them. Pretty happy with this placement. For now.

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Sorry about the rough drawing. But here you see the layout of the garage with the small storage/workout/future shop area of the garage.
Here's how the first set worked out.
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Hi again,
So, with the cabinets in and trying to work on the 2002's subframes, I concluded that the garage needs some extra room. That and I need a hydraulic press.

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Taking this wall out would increase the working space of the garage but introduce a few problems.

First one is storage. That large wall currently has a couple wire racks along it in the closet. On those racks are bins with car parts and also my winter/summer wheels & tires. On the other side of the wall in the garage I hang hoses and my Quick Jacks. When this wall comes down, I'll need to find solutions for this.

Second issue is heating/cooling insulation. The garage door is insulated and the garage had been heated by the house HVAC. I was able to close the door on the wall and leave the garage door open without cooling down the other space. Not an option if the wall comes down and I'd like to keep the work space warm/cool.

Last is fire safety.

The last garage I built, I had to do quite a bit in this regard. Double layers of drywall, hardy plank exterior, etc. And that was for a detached garage. Attached garages now require 20 minute fire rated doors. The ceiling, since there is living space above it, has to have no less than 5/8-inch Type “X” gypsum board.

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I've already got a couple fire extinguishers in the space. Would a fire suppression system be a good idea or overkill?
Thanks!
 

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Well, you've got some cash ******* in cars there...so fire suppression is not a terrible idea. Regardless, the measures to get you the 60 minute fire rating along with interconnected alarms etc. are a no brainer IMHO...I'd do them both if you can, but take no shortcuts on the fire rating if you're not getting permits. I always try to work to a few steps beyond code even with renos etc. that I'm doing outside of permits.

I sold a commercial building last year that we had completely retrofit (about 9000 sq/ft) which was designed to be net zeroish, hyper efficient etc. The fire safety and separations were quite a pain, including 2 layers of 5/8" type X, steel fire rated doors blah blah. Every HVAC penetration needed automatic fire dampers, etc. etc. It was quite a project.

I'm actually surprised by the difference in residential code which seems a lot more lax in single family homes. It's all about early warning I guess, not 60-120 minute fire rated spaces...
 

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Your garage hvac is tied into the house? That's a no-no basically everywhere AFAIK. Drawing CO or other fumes in and distributing them through the house is the risk.

Have you considered a mini split dedicated to the garage?
 
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@Denwood, Yes, I think you're right, it's more about giving warning so you can get out in time. @mike93lx Great comment and I had to dig into it.

I had done some research on this prior to deciding the "wall" needed to come down. Truth be told, I'm a layman. I have no delusions of being a master carpenter or plumber. But, I have been able to get permits for framing, wiring, plumbing etc and passed those inspections doing the work myself. In my trade, that's 'knowing enough to be dangerous'.

The good side of that is I also know when it's time to call in the pro's. This is definitly one of those times! Anything to do with concrete would be the right time too. None the less, I got on line to the City Building Code and did some reading.

Some things to note first:

  • I never run the car in the garage for anything longer than to get it in or out of the space. Exception being when checking the oil level in the 911 while doing an oil change. It has to be on a flat surface at running temperature for the thermostat to be open so true level can be registered on the gauge. Don't trust the dip stick!
  • The garage door is of course wide open and the doors to the house are closed.
  • The air return is in the house, not the garage and the only register in the garage is for supply. No return register is bad too, but a different problem.
  • There are a number of things I do and plan to do in the garage that will be a source of fumes and bad smells. Like welding, laying up carbon fiber, or farting.
On to the code.

712.1.10.3 Duct Systems

Vertical openings for mechanical exhaust or supply duct systems in parking garages complying with Sections 406.5 and 406.6, respectively, shall be permitted to be unenclosed where such duct system is contained within and serves only the parking garage.


406.6 in this case pertains to enclosed parking garages...

406.6.2 Ventilation

A mechanical ventilation system and exhaust system shall be provided in accordance with Chapters 4 and 5 of the International Mechanical Code.....OK.

Exception: Mechanical ventilation shall not be required for enclosed parking garages that are accessory to one- and two-family dwellings.


That's the kicker.
So if no ventilation is included that's okay because it is not a requirement per code. But what if it is included? What rules apply?
The answer seems to be in chapters 4 and 5 of the International Mechanical Code.

From chapter 4
404.1 Enclosed Parking Garages and Automobile Repair Facilities


Mechanical ventilation systems for enclosed parking garages shall operate continuously or shall be automatically operated by means of carbon monoxide detectors applied in conjunction with nitrogen dioxide detectors. Such detectors shall be listed in accordance with UL 2075 and installed in accordance with their listing and the manufacturers' instructions. Automatic operation shall cycle the ventilation system between the following two modes of operation:
Full-on at an airflow rate of not less than 0.75 cfm per square foot [0.0038 m3/(s • m2)] of the floor area served.

Standby at an airflow rate of not less than 0.05 cfm per square foot [0.00025 m3/(s • m2)] of the floor area served.

From chapter 5
502.1 General

An exhaust system shall be provided, maintained and operated as specifically required by this section and for all occupied areas where machines, vats, tanks, furnaces, forges, salamanders and other appliances, equipment and processes in such areas produce or throw off dust or particles sufficiently light to float in the air, or emit heat, odors, fumes, spray, gas or smoke in such quantities so as to be irritating or injurious to health or safety.


So, after all that, I still agree that preventing any fumes, and smells from the garage getting into the house is desired even if not explisitely required by code.

I'll run this by my HVAC guy for the smell test, then run it by the City to see if I actually need to do anything. Here's my plan:


  • I'll get those fire rated doors installed and make sure they remain closed when not in use.
  • Build up the walls to meet the current fire rating.
  • I'll close up that supply register and seal it. This might actually improve the flow up into the living/dining room above. And then install a dedicated heating/cooling system for the garage. A mini split sounds like a good solution.
  • Also, I will continue researching this and make some calls to make sure it's all good.

HVAC diagram for the house from original plans. Note: there orignially were two supply registers into the garage. I see no return in that space. The duct in there is mainly intended to feed the spaces above the garage. Primarily the dinning and living room.

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Thanks again! And I hope I got that all right. If not, please let me know. That's what I'm here for after all!
 

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Love the MCM architecture, air cooled 911's and 2002's. And, we're nearly neighbors out in these parts. Looks like you have a lot of good stuff going on!
 

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Every bit of this is awesome! Can't wait for more!

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The color of the 911 against the house is just perfect!
 
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Hi there again. Things are moving slowly on finishing the demo. Weather is cold and I'm waiting until this weekend to finish that out.
In the mean time, I wanted to share a little project we did this summer.

The house is built into a pretty steep hill. Facing the house, on the left there was a wooden stairway with a gravel path leading up to it which was how you could get to the back yard. The path was not safe, no hand rails and the wood was not treated and badly rotted. The inspector almost fell off it when we bought the house! So, it was marked as not safe and needed to be replaced.

On the right side of the house, on the other side of the garage, there was a retaining wall and a very steep slope with stone pavers that was also not safe to climb up and offered no way to get onto the deck on that side of the house.

Basically you had to walk through the house up to the next floor then out the sliding glass doors to get to the deck. Not fun.

Our solution was to demo the rotted out stairs and the landing it had then clean up the gravel path to make room for plantings. This effectively removed the left side of the slope as a way to get to the back yard.
This leaves the right side with the retaining wall and steep slope. Above which is the side yard deck.

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From here we would tear up the benches around the edge of this deck, build a proper staircase down the hill and build an outdoor kitchen.
We had planned to do this a while ago and had purchased most of the lumber we needed before the price of it went through the roof.

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Jo loves to demo. Put a 10lb sledge in her hands and watch out!

We'd never built a set of stairs before, so we spent a lot of time reading and watching videos. I can safely say that I'd be happy to do it again, but couldn't have said that while we did this. Going along with the hill theme here, it was a steap learning curve!

With the bench out of the way we dug holes and put in new posts to support the deck and what would become the bbq kitchen and the landing for some new stairs.

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With them integrated into the existing deck, got to working on the bottom landing for the stairs.
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The retaining wall to the left there, goes down another a few more feet. Not going anywhere that one is.
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We had some extra concrete 12"x12" pavers with exposed agrigate. So I incorperated them into the landing.
 

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Building stairs, turned out to be a lot of fun and we managed to get the stringers right on our first try. Shocking.
Quick test fit to make sure we were spot on.
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Attached it, made sure it was level and true. Rince and repeat for the other two.
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Then the first step.
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Looking like a proper set of stairs!
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While we were doing this, we took a look again at the deck on the other side of the house. The decking is red cedar and was in really good shape. The framing of the deck was a wreck. Untreated lumber and posts sitting on dirt! And it wasn't attached to the house correctly.

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This was pointed out to us during inspection. It had to go eventually. And just like working on the cars, 'while I'm in there' syndrom kicked in hard. We began tearing this out to rebuild it too.
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As it came out, we realized that the red cedar was just too nice to throw out. We put our heads together and came up with a pretty good idea. Actually, it was Jo's idea and I agreed that it was a great one.

Here's a teaser for what it turned into:
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