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A beat up old sticker on a newly restored grinder makes it look bad. Many restorations require that the label be removed (and destroyed in the process) to repaint. When I restore a grinder I go all out - sandblast, paint, new bearings, replace cord, replace rubber feet, etc. I want my old grinders to have no problem lasting another 20 (or 40) years of heavy use before they look worn out.

Besides the old label my restorations look new.

Sometimes I need to remove the old label to sand and paint and sometimes the old label is damaged and needs to be replaced.

Here is a recent Baldor 3/4 HP from 1978 that I picked up for $200 a few months ago and is undergoing a restoration.

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Solid grinder but it was heavily used and ready for a full restoration. This requires that I remove all the old stickers and sand blast it.

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Here it is partially restored. Only new parts are the bolts to attach to the stand, the bolts to attach the polycarbonate sheets and the new labels. I still need to attach nameplate and switch cover which I ordered new from Baldor.

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Baldor also sells the adhesive labels but they are overpriced in my opinion so I made them myself. And besides, Baldor won't sell the UL label.

These labels were drawn on the computer using the old label as a template. I scanned the old label in on the office copy machine then used vector based drawing tools to make a perfect replica. These labels are within 0.01" of original.

I print them on silver or white high performance adhesive vinyl using solvent inks then machine cut them to size (the cutter automatically rounds the corners). The hard part is creating the electronic version of the label. It can take an hour or two for complex ones. The printing and cutting take just a few minutes.

It's actually no more effort to print out 8 then I have a few extras in case I mess up.

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These are unlaminated so they are damaged with alcohol based solvents but are water and light resistant. For more durable labels I add a high performance clear laminate prior to machine cutting. That does complicate the cutting process as the machine needs to re-orient the print origin but then the labels are impervious to chemicals.

Here's one I did for a craftsman grinder last year (this is the spare one that didn't end up getting used). This one took about 90 mins to draw.

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And some for another machine I'm restoring

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I use professional sign making software to do the layout (FlexiSIGN) which allows for fast and accurate drawing in vector format and can import and export EPS and PDF files.

All these labels (except the yellow/black ones) are extras that I don't need anymore. If you can use a any let me know and PM me your address and I'll send them.

I may regret saying this but I will also make any adhesive label for a grinder for free (at least until I get overwhelmed). If you need one post up a photo and I'll let you know of that is one I can make.
 

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I would really like to find a new label for my 1/3 HP Craftsman block grinder. Couldn't see where to post a pis in the IM so I'll send yu my address separately in IM.
 

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I would really like to find a new label for my 1/3 HP Craftsman block grinder. Couldn't see where to post a pis in the IM so I'll send yu my address separately in IM.



This shouldn't be too hard to reproduce. Can you get me a high quality scan with a flat bed scanner? You should be able to remove the center band and press it against a scanner to get a clean image. This way you don't have to remove the sticker until you get the replacement.

Sometimes you need to remove the old label to scan it (the Baldor label was on a curved surface and had to be removed to scan). It comes off much easier with a bit of heat from a heat gun (or if you don't have one a hair dryer will work). Heat fully and peel slowly and it should come off in one piece. I then clean metal surface with lighter fluid to soften and remove any adhesive residue.

Scan should be at 300dpi color and saved as PDF or TIFF. Don't use JPEG as that can be a lossy format. 300DPI gives a 0.0033" tolerance.

I should have it done for you early next week.
 

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I just got done repainting an older Craftsman grinder too. I found it doing a clean out of an old horse farm. The thing was lag bolted to a pole outside with a trash can over top. I hooked a cord to it and it run perfect so it came home with me. It was rough, but a complete tear down, some time in the bead blaster, and some fresh paint and its good as new except for the decals. I believe these were the same as Black and Decker models back then. I found the original receipt for it from 1988 in a tool box inside. I'm in the process now of making up some heavier duty tool rests and some new plexiglass shields for it.

When I was stripping the grinder down I thought about masking off the original decal but it was lifting on two corners and had rust underneath so it had to come off. I was going to just stick some generic "Craftsman" decals on it but having something more like the original would be great.
 

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That is awesome and very generous of you. I have a similar 1/2 hp Baldor grinder. Mine has a metal tag on the front which is in good shape, and a couple paper lables. It has a paper dual voltage wiring label on the back. I'll take a look tonight and see if its the same as yours. Mine also has the lighted eye shields that have labels.

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That is a super nice gesture of you :thumbup:, I sent you a message.

Thank You.
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Got the photo and this should be an easy one - very close to what I already worked on. Can you get a picture on a flatbed scanner so that there is no distortion? This way I can make a perfect replica.
 
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When I was stripping the grinder down I thought about masking off the original decal but it was lifting on two corners and had rust underneath so it had to come off. I was going to just stick some generic "Craftsman" decals on it but having something more like the original would be great.

This one will be easy - it is already off the grinder. Scan it in and send me the scan.

Of course I prefer to make vintage USA made grinder labels, but I'll make this Taiwanese one for you.

If you don't have a scanner you can go to Staples and they will scan it for you for about $0.50.
 
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That is awesome and very generous of you. I have a similar 1/2 hp Baldor grinder. Mine has a metal tag on the front which is in good shape, and a couple paper lables. It has a paper dual voltage wiring label on the back. I'll take a look tonight and see if its the same as yours. Mine also has the lighted eye shields that have labels.

It should be the same as the Baldor labels I made already. The only difference I've seen on Baldor is that the buffers have a slightly different CAUTION label (they replace a word or two).

The eyeshield labels look to be printed on reflective gold. I can print on a gold vinyl, but not one with a mirror finish like that. Happy to make them for you, but I need a flat scan of them to reproduce. (unfortunately the best way to do this is to peel one off carefully with some heat)
 
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That is a super nice gesture of you :thumbup:, I sent you a message.

Thank You.
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Here is the photo you sent me:

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It's best to scan label on a flatbed scanner or copier but in this case I was able to recreate the label from this photo.

Here is the result. I printed up 3 and will send them out in the morning. These are not laminated but should work well. If not Staples can laminate for a few dollars and you can hand cut.

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Remove old label with heat then clean off any adhesive reside and apply sticker. Post back with a photo once you apply it.

Tech details - very close to my 1hp label but with slightly different text at bottom with full justification. Also the "1/2" uses sub/superscript which required some fine tuning. Only other difference was some text and a red underline. Interestingly, your off/on positions are reverse of mine and the line between them is longer.

Please save old label and scan it in (or mail original to me) so I can perfect some positions and sizes I had to guess at.
 

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Here is the photo you sent me:
Here is the result. I printed up 3 and will send them out in the morning. These are not laminated but should work well. If not Staples can laminate for a few dollars and you can hand cut.

Remove old label with heat then clean off any adhesive reside and apply sticker. Post back with a photo once you apply it.

Tech details - very close to my 1hp label but with slightly different text at bottom with full justification. Also the "1/2" uses sub/superscript which required some fine tuning. Only other difference was some text and a red underline. Interestingly, your off/on positions are reverse of mine and the line between them is longer.

Please save old label and scan it in (or mail original to me) so I can perfect some positions and sizes I had to guess at.

OMG, that is awesome :bowdown: That is so much better, I'll send you my info :beer:
THANK YOU mattblast!!!
 
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Here is before and after on the 1HP label I showed in the original post. Besides the new label, it also got a new set of bearings and a new paint job.


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What an awesome gesture! I have a 3/4 round top I'd love to get a replacement sticker for. It's been restored, but the sticker is definitely a little rough.
 

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This one will be easy - it is already off the grinder. Scan it in and send me the scan.

Of course I prefer to make vintage USA made grinder labels, but I'll make this Taiwanese one for you.

If you don't have a scanner you can go to Staples and they will scan it for you for about $0.50.

Those decal look amazing.

I scanned the decal off mine, its a bit rough but I got it pretty flat and taped up the tears from behind.
The original decal is 3.75 inches wide by 6 inches tall.

The decal got a lot worse after I peeled it off as the clear laminated surface sort of crackled as it was bent backwards.

I actually have another one of these grinders, one is gray, the other is black but both have the same p/n and decal. The gray grinder lost its decal almost right away, it fell apart in pieces within the first year I had it. The Goal here is to have one set up for polishing metal, the other as a grinder.

Here's two scans of it, one in full page the other cropped down to size.
I posted it here too since this page seems to auto downsize uploads.

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Hi Matt,

here's my label thanks;



I need a flatbed scan of this label to reproduce. It is significantly different than the ones I've already done and the scan will allow me to redraw it accurately. Can you take off center cover and get it to fit
On a scanner? If not you need to carefully peel it off to scan.
 
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It's the details that drive me crazy...

Here is the original label from my Craftsman 397-19360 grinder

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And her is a label from another

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Notice that the "Danger" text at the bottom is unjustified on mine and fully justified on the other? The second example I found for sale on eBay. I'm guessing that Sears modified the label mid model.
 

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I've found an old Balknap belt-driven bench grinder in the barn that I was planning on restoring. It belonged to my grandfather. A few weeks ago I saw the label for it on E-bay and now I kick myself for not buying it then. I can't locate it now. The label on the grinder I have is in extremely poor condition. Do you think it's possible to recreate it if I can get a good enough photo if it, or do you only specialize in Craftsman grinders?
 

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This should be all I need to recreate the label. I'll work on it next week. What's the SN on the second unit?

I no longer have the original decal for the gray grinder, but I did write the part number and serial number on the base, that one is a 319-190631, and the serial number was stamped into the decal not printed, 9696 was stamped right into the black area after the Serial Number: text.

That decal was mostly white over black with a small yellow Industrial logo. Here's a few pics of the same model I swiped from the web. The decal on the gray grinder was wider judging by the outline, 4 1/4" x 6". (It sits next to the phone in the garage, at some point before the decal came off someone traced the decal with a pencil so the outline is still there. I saved the decal, but can't remember where I put it. I seem to remember sliding it under a drawer liner in one of my toolboxes but can't remember which one or if I even still have it.)

I thought the gray grinder was made in Taiwan as well but all the few like it I find online all say China.

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Do you think it's possible to recreate it if I can get a good enough photo if it, or do you only specialize in Craftsman grinders?


I'll make any label just needs to be a sticker. Get a clean flat scan of the original and I'll take a look.
 
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That's a very kind offer and beautiful work! I have one I would love to send you once I am at my computer. I already have the artwork done and I would like to try mounting a vinyl label on a piece of aluminum.

I have a full res one on my PC, but here is a low res version of my repro.
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Unfortunately, I no longer have my original label, as I sent it to a user on GJ who said he was going to help me with a label, then I never heard from him again, and he stopped posting and checking PMs here shortly thereafter.
 
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Matt, how low res can you handle? Wanting to recreate a couple labels for a 2-drawer carry box for my son, but the only photo I have gets fairly jagged when blown up enough. Tried tracing it in Sketch-up, but no luck. I have the overall logo, and know what needs to be added.
 

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I already have the artwork done and I would like to try mounting a vinyl label on a piece of aluminum
FYI bayphoto.com has done this already for members here, you send them your file and they print on satin aluminum, others here have used them successfully, but its not as cheap as vinyl.
 
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That's a very kind offer and beautiful work! I have one I would love to send you once I am at my computer. I already have the artwork done and I would like to try mounting a vinyl label on a piece of aluminum.

I have a full res one on my PC, but here is a low res version of my repro.

Unfortunately, I no longer have my original label, as I sent it to a user on GJ who said he was going to help me with a label, then I never heard from him again, and he stopped posting and checking PMs here shortly thereafter.


I can make it on an aluminum plate for you. Send me the file and I'll try to get it done next week. EPS or PDF is best as those are vector formats but if not JPEG is ok
 
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Matt, how low res can you handle? Wanting to recreate a couple labels for a 2-drawer carry box for my son, but the only photo I have gets fairly jagged when blown up enough. Tried tracing it in Sketch-up, but no luck. I have the overall logo, and know what needs to be added.



Post a clean flat scan and I'll let you know if I can make it.
 
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That is awesome and very generous of you. I have a similar 1/2 hp Baldor grinder. Mine has a metal tag on the front which is in good shape, and a couple paper lables. It has a paper dual voltage wiring label on the back. I'll take a look tonight and see if its the same as yours. Mine also has the lighted eye shields that have labels.



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I printed up the Baldor 1-440 lighted eye shield labels by scanning in the original label you sent me and redrawing and printing on gold vinyl. The original material was on gold mirror but that is hard to print on so I used gold sparkle. (Impossible to tell the difference unless you are only a few inches away)

Here is the final result. I printed 5 for you so you have some spares.

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This was printed full bleed and cut with an inset. Sometimes the ink at the edge can cause he label to curl up if I don't give it enough time to dry prior to cutting. Let me know if you have any issues because I can always reprint with lamination to reduce the curl.
 

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