Vise Info Thread

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

I put together an Excel Spreadsheet with specs, links to pics, as well as a second worksheet that has links for brochures, general ads, news articles and patents.

Vise Info Spreadsheet - Specs & Brochures
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHFRfY_DFXMz6bFeeYI7UKRpUd3aheAE86KBQRBGb9s/edit?usp=sharing

The vise thread has tons of info on it but getting close to 3000 pages, the Excel is just a means to find things easier. Many links are from the page they appeared on, 99% from GJ. But I have many items saved on my PC or some stuff other GJ members have e-mailed me, I need to post them somewhere to link them, so I will do that on this thread.

If anone has pecs, pics, brochures or anything vise related, you can post those items here. If anyone finds errors in anything posted, please let me know, you can post it on here also.

I will add it or make corrections when time permits. I should have a new upload once or twice a month

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

Athol/Starrett Brochures...

Athol Parker Pittsburg Reed Rock Island Williamson (1907).jpg

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

Pics for some Athol/Starrett Pics...

Athol #65 U-Beam (Oval Slide)

Athol #114X

Athol #325 1/2 Combo Vise

Starrett/Athol #325 Combo Vise

Starrett/Athol #013 1/2 Workshop Vise

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

Pics of a some Fulton vises...

A Fulton 481

A Fulton 1825

A Fulton 293

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

Some Lewis vise pics & brochure, later bought by Prentiss

Lewis No 10

Lewis No 32

Lewis Ad

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

Some Reed Catalog Pages posted in the early pages of the vise thread by Demoman...

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

Pages from a Columbian Vise Catalog, can't recall who submitted them, but they were on the vise thread.

FMC1959 · Mar 13, 2017

Pictures of a restored Chas Parker # 0, submitted by GJ member KMScott

KMScott · Mar 14, 2017

Here is a couple more Athols. these are the Athol Ratcheting handle or 700 series vises.

First one is the 713. Weights 40lbs, has 4" jaws and safely opens to 5-1/2" and has cast in Hard jaws.

The next one is a 717. Weights 67lbs, has 5" jaws and opens to 7" with hard cast in place jaws.

Both vises are welded at the ratcheting area and will get repaired late.

This is a great service FMC1959 is doing for the bench vise crowd. Please look and see if you can supply pic's and the specs for this spreadsheet with vises you own.

FMC1959 · Mar 14, 2017

KMScott said:
Here is a couple more Athols. these are the Athol Ratcheting handle or 700 series vises....

Kevin, thanks for the info and pics, added and uploaded to the spreadsheet.

KMScott · Mar 14, 2017

Athol 113 A This Stationary vise weights 20-1/lbs and has 3" wide jaws that opens to a little over 4"

Here is another Athol 123-1/2 has cast in hard insert jaws that are 3-1/2" wide. The pipe jaws are replaceable. Vise weights 44 lbs and opens to 4 inches wide.

Thanks to a GJ member Steve M Welding that lives close to me for sharing his vises. These two are his. He is responsible for getting me into the vise business. He owns 50+ vises that he has purchased at Garage Sales here in Estes Park for the last 35 years. Thanks Steve.

bluebolt · Mar 14, 2017

I well know how much work this is, kudos FMC1959!

FMC1959 · Mar 15, 2017

bluebolt said:
I well know how much work this is, kudos FMC1959!

Thank you sir.

KMScott · Mar 15, 2017

Here is a 8" Parker # 978 swivel base that was restored and a stand built for it from AZ. I believe a GJ member owns this. I did my little part and made a set of hard jaws for it.

KMScott · Mar 15, 2017

Here is a 956 I purchased in Denver and restored it for a good friend in Virginia. Weights in at 127lbs with a new set of 6" jaws. Nice heavy duty vise. I like Parker's.

FMC1959 · Mar 15, 2017

KMScott said:
Here is a 8" Parker # 978 swivel base that was restored and a stand built for it from AZ. I believe a GJ member owns this. I did my little part and made a set of hard jaws for it.

I remember this one, a real beauty. I think Drives spoke to the new owner and has some info about him.

KMScott · Mar 16, 2017

Chas Parker # 79, Semi Steel Solid bar. Weights in at 160 lbs and has a max opening of 10" safely. It has two 3/8 x 1 steel bars cast below the square slide. Before and after pictures.

KMScott · Mar 17, 2017

Parker Union 973-B 3" wide jaws , opens to a safely to 5". Weights 27 lbs. This one has custom made jaws.

KMScott · Mar 17, 2017

973-1/2 B Parker vise. Weights in at 41 lbs, max opening is 6-1/2" the jaws are 3-1/2 inches wide.

FMC1959 · Mar 17, 2017

All items above this post have been added, as well as about 30 other new entries, all uploaded to Google docs

T45 · Mar 17, 2017

Here is a brand cross-reference, probably the most useful single page of info I have seen. This chart allows you to cross-reference the various makes by model number. If you want to see what a comparable vintage Vise was to that Reed 204R or a modern Wilton 450s is, you can check it out in this chart.

:beer:

KMScott · Mar 17, 2017

T45, nice chart. Thanks. Here is a Chas Parker 973 Swivel vise. Weights in at 28 lbs. 3" wide jaws and opens to over 4-1/2". Owned by a GJ Member Steve M Welding.

KMScott · Mar 17, 2017

A Chas Parker 953 Stationary base 3" vise. Checkout the hand filed serrations done during assembly. Weights 24 lbs. Max opening is 4-1/2"

FMC1959 · Mar 17, 2017

T45 said:
Here is a brand cross-reference, probably the most useful single page of info I have seen. This chart allows you to cross-reference the various makes by model number. If you want to see what a comparable vintage Vise was to that Reed 204R or a modern Wilton 450s is, you can check it out in this chart.

T45 great chart and thanks for posting.

I have about 150 - 200 brochures, I know I have a similar one by Columbian comparing their models to the competitors. I need to post them but trying to organize and catalog them first, I have many doubles and triples.

EDIT: T45, I was posting your chart on the "Brochures" worksheet and noticed I already had it. Post by Demoman way back in the Vise thread.....too many brochures to keep track

Kevin, as always, thanks for your contributions. You have been a great help with pics and info I am currently missing. I added your 973 & 953 pics to my working sheet, I'll upload it in the next few days.

Mark in Indiana · Mar 18, 2017

FMC:
Here's a Polish, 80mm FPU vise that I restored a while back.
All of the pictures and information is in this thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5800723&posted=1#post5800723

FMC1959 · Mar 19, 2017

Here are catalog pages for some English vises. Pretty sure they were posted by CW (Crazywabbit), if not (my apologies), then Dutchgray or Fretters...

Woden, Record & Handy Vises

Woden, Woden, Woden, & Record

All Record

Perfect, Samsonia, Fortis, & Rededa

Parkinson Ball & 3 Record

Swinden

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KMScott · Mar 19, 2017

A couple pictures from either GJ members or pictures sent to me for questions. These are all 6" jaws.

A restored Parker 976-A from GJ Member balane 6" jaws.

Parker 207 with 6" jaws.

Parker 275 6" Swivel Jaw

CwazyWabbit · Mar 20, 2017

FMC1959 said:
Here are catalog pages for some English vises. Pretty sure they were posted by CW (Crazywabbit), if not (my apologies), then Dutchgray or Fretters...

*snip*

They look to be my handy work

If you go to the link in my signature you will find PDF's with better quality versions of those pages as well as them throughout the different years. Those are from a Buck and Hickman catalogue, there are also Record and Parkinson catalogues on that link.

You'll also find some American vises in the earlier Buck and Hickman catalogues.

FMC1959 · Mar 20, 2017

CwazyWabbit said:
They look to be my handy work

If you go to the link in my signature you will find PDF's with better quality versions of those pages as well as them throughout the different years. Those are from a Buck and Hickman catalogue, there are also Record and Parkinson catalogues on that link.

You'll also find some American vises in the earlier Buck and Hickman catalogues.

I was pretty sure it was you, thanks for those and I will get around to the catalogs in your links; lots of good stuff to go through.

I wanted to ask one of you guys across the pond about the MFR relationships. I know that Parkinson made or owned Samsonia, but was it through an acquisition or was Samsonia a sub brand, or something else? Then Handy, Perfect and Ajax, were they all independent and gobbled up by one f the bigger guys (I think Fortis owned Ajax). Or were they introduced by the parent company as a sub brand or even equal brand, just a marketing ploy to get more market share?

If you have any info that can explain these, that would be great. I can add that info onto the vise spreadsheet or maybe just simply link your response under the manufactures on the Brochures worksheet of the Excel.

Thanks

CwazyWabbit · Mar 20, 2017

The Handy and Perfect Vises are ranges that were designed and made by Parkinson as opposed to being part of a buy out.
Samsonia was the brand name that Parkinson sold their cast steel (as opposed to cast iron) vises under, I don't believe it was part of a buy out just a sub brand.

The Parkinson Model F Perfect Vise is the cast iron one and the Samsonia Model J Perfect vise is the cast steel one. I don't recall ever seeing any other letter model numbers for the Perfect vises.

I'll have to check about the various renaming that went on with Fortis/Ajax/Alfred Herbert etc.

FMC1959 · Mar 20, 2017

CwazyWabbit said:
The Handy and Perfect Vises are ranges that were designed and made by Parkinson as opposed to being part of a buy out.
Samsonia was the brand name that Parkinson sold their cast steel (as opposed to cast iron) vises under, I don't believe it was part of a buy out just a sub brand.

The Parkinson Model F Perfect Vise is the cast iron one and the Samsonia Model J Perfect vise is the cast steel one. I don't recall ever seeing any other letter model numbers for the Perfect vises.

I'll have to check about the various renaming that went on with Fortis/Ajax/Alfred Herbert etc.

Thanks

FMC1959 · Mar 23, 2017

Mark in Indiana said:
FMC:
Here's a Polish, 80mm FPU vise that I restored a while back.
All of the pictures and information is in this thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5800723&posted=1#post5800723

KMScott said:
A couple pictures from either GJ members or pictures sent to me for questions. These are all 6" jaws.

A restored Parker 976-B from GJ Member balane 6" jaws.

Parker 207 with 6" jaws.

Parker 275 6" Swivel Jaw

These have been added, as well the Howard Iron Works vise has been properly identified, Zoomies Joseph Ware vise and about 20 other entries added and uploaded.

The first 385 pages of the vise thread have been checked, relevant info and picture links added.

Total entries 2283
With linked photo 898

The brochures worksheet is coming along but much slower. Still have many brochures to properly organize and catalog before entering.

Up to 28 MFR's with at lest one link.

FMC1959 · Mar 23, 2017

Mark in Indiana said:
FMC:
Here's a Polish, 80mm FPU vise that I restored a while back.
All of the pictures and information is in this thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5800723&posted=1#post5800723

Mark, I forgot to ask you, in your thread, you say it is model PJWK 80. Most often, either the traditional looking fpu vise or like yours with the reverse moving dynamic, how can you tell the model difference? Usually, it just has the size and an fpu logo. Was the pjwk on the vise or you looked it up on their website?

FMC1959 · Mar 24, 2017

More brochures

Farmers and Adams / Diamond anvil vises

American Scale Utility, Machinists & Combo + Farmers Anvil

American Scale Combo Machinists & Utility Farmers.jpg

Blake (Prentiss), Armstrong and also Diamond, Cheney & Farmers anvil vises

Armstrong-Blake-Cheney Diamond 2 Farmers.jpg

Atlas Combo and Heavy Chipping vises

Atlas Nutyp

Austin & Cheney anvil vises and Parker 4000 Coachmaker's vise

Bachus vise ad

FMC1959 · Mar 24, 2017

More brochures

Barrett news article

Barrett machinists vise

Simpson & Lewis (later Prentiss) Perfect (Massey?) and Barrett

Bingham, Prentiss Bulldog and swivel jaw

Bingham Prentiss Bulldo & Swivel jaw (1904).jpg

Prentiss (Blake) combo, Prentiss Bulldog & swivel jaw, Columbian 40 series and Stanley bench vises

Luther clamp and bench vises

Parker Vulcan and Parallel vises, Barrett Machinist vise and unknown?

The Perfect vise, from what I recall, Massey made both the Perfect and Rapid Transit vises. If anyone knows differently, please let me know

FMC1959 · Mar 24, 2017

Bonney vise brochures

Various Bonney clampers, Bonney swivel base and a Champion, Prentiss Shepard, as well as some Jersey (later Stanley) clampers, swivel base and sets

Bonney Champion

Bonney, Jersey (Stanley) clamp, swivel and complete sets. Also Diamond and empire, as well as an unknown anvil vise (Rock Island?)

Bonney Diamond Empire Shepard Victor Jersey.jpg

Bonney Hercules vise, standard and swivel jaw

Bonney clamp and swivel base, and complet set also (for $15.00 :eyecrazy:

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Bonney C1 & C2 sets

Bonney set, as well as various clampers and swivel base.

FMC1959 · Mar 24, 2017

A mix of brochures

Berjo Bench Vise

A Berjo and a Berl & Joksch

Berjo Machine Vise

A couple of Bokers, a Stearns, and a Phoenix

a variety of Jersey (Stanley) and Bonney vises

Canedy battery vise

Going down the right side of the page there is a Champion (Bonney) at the top, Shepard (Prentiss) in the middle and a couple of Lewis (Prentiss) on the bottom. Dead center, not sure as I do not recognize the model numbers, could be a Phoenix or Colton, the 2 on the left could be Bonney's or Boker's.

FMC1959 · Mar 24, 2017

Another mix of MFR's...

Champion (Bonney), Shepard (Prentiss) and Colton (or Phoenix?). Then possibly 3 Boker's, a Lightning Grip (Massey?) and a Stephen's

Champion General Ad

Champion General Ad

Prentiss Gypsy, Stearns and Cheney anvil vise

Cheney anvil vise and some other unique vises (unknown)

2 Farmers, 2 Parkers, a Cheney anvil vise and a Simpson (Prentiss) vise

Cheny Farmer 2 Parker combo & holdfast Simpson.jpg

Farmers, Diamond and Cheney anvil vises.

FMC1959 · Mar 26, 2017

Columbian and other brochures

Columbian 40 & 90 Series, Coachmaker's and Heavy Chipping vises, 2 Worth vises and Keystone vise.

Columbian 600 Series, Coachmaker's, Heavy Chipping vises. Prentis Bulldog and Swivel jaw vises

Columbian 400, 500, 600, and 140 Series

Columbian 200, 500, 600, and Heavy Chipping Vises

Columbian 200 500 600 & Heavy Chipping.jpg

Columbian 300 & 400 Series, Farmers Oval Slide & Yankee Vise

Columbian 400, 500, & 600 Series. Parker Big Bear and Combo vises

Columbian 140, 300 & 400 Series. Yost 100 & 200 series

Columbian 140 Series 500 600 Yost 100 & 200(1923).jpg

FMC1959 · Mar 26, 2017

More Columbian brochures...

Top right, I do not recognize the logo...if someone knows it, please let me know. The rest is a Mohawk, a Prentiss Shepard and a Columbian 40.

Columbian 140, 500, & 600 Series, and Morgan Machinist and Combo vises

Columbian 200 500 600 143 Series Morgan Machinists (1921).jpg

Columbian Ad

Columbian Ad

Columbian Red Arrow, 804 Vise, and Combo Series

Columbian Heavy Chipping, Combo, Filers, and Coachmaker's Vises

Columbian Combo Coachmaker Filers & Heavy Chipping.jpg

Columbian Comparison Chart

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