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I kinda hijacked jtbinvalrico's 1952 Craftsman "100" DP resto thread when I acquired my Craftsman floor model drill press.

I've got much more going on with it, so I thought I'd better start my own thread and backtrack to the beginning by repeating some of my posts from jtb's thread.


08-23-2012, 07:30 PM:
I just brought this one home today. I was worried that the table lift did not raise the table easily, but now see that it was installed incorrectly. The previous owner removed a portion of the cranium on the head, presumably to make it easier to change belts and installed an electrical box inside the head for a switch (barely visible to the left of the spring tension adjuster knob).

I'm not sure the solid table is original. A nice machine though.
 
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Very nice, you don't see many production table craftsman presses. That is like craftsmans version of the delta 15" production press. Where did it come from, a home or production environment? What did you pay for it? You keep mentioning that you thought you paid too much? :dunno:
 
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08-28-2012, 11:55 am:
i believe the above drill press is from 1952 or 1953. The '52 and '53 catalogs are the only ones that do not show the band around the head.

The model information label was removed from the base, so i have no idea on the exact model number or manufacturer. There may be a manufacturer number cast into the head. I need to check that out.

The drill press above came with several optional features:
- production table #99am2306f
- head and table lift #99a02419k
- drill press collar #9a2429
- slow-speed attachment #9a2338 (aka multi-speed, or hi-lo attachment)

unfortunately, the slow-speed attachment was bypassed with a single belt from the motor pulley to the chuck arbor pulley.

So now i need to know what size belts to get to use the slow-speed attachment. Does anyone have this option? I'd rather not guess, so i need the belt sizes and instruction on how to operate this feature.

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08-30-2012, 06:44 am:
I have a lead on the owner's guide, but that helps a ton.

I thought i may have overpaid for this dp, but didn't realize just what i found.

The table is in real nice shape even with the holes.

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08-30-2012, 04:52 pm:
i wouldn't be too worried about those holes frank, unless they are through and you plan on using coolant, which is what the table was deigned for. I'd bet the x-y table of the day was intended to mount to the two factory holes that are in there.

that could be. The holes are 5.5" apart oc and in line with the chuck cl. They are threaded 3/8-16.



08-31-2012, 05:59 am
it took a few days, but i finally have the installation and operating instructions for the craftsman 2338 multi-speed attachment (slow-speed or hi-lo attachment).

A huge thank you to bobbyjim for scanning and sending me the images.

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09-04-2012, 07:22 am:
i made a good bit of progress getting my dp up and running the way i want.

I finally found the slow-speed belts at auto zone; duralast part numbers 15270 and 15290. These are 3/8" wide notched belts. I bought 1/2" belts first but they were too wide.

I had to r&r the spindle pulley assembly... The po did not reinstall the small snap-ring that held the bearings onto the pulley. I discovered that one or both bearings had been replaced... Nice! I also had to buy the machine screw to hold the spindle pulley assembly in place.

The po had installed flex metal conduit from the motor to the switch. I had to re-secure the motor end of the conduit.

I also made good progress on a 22" x 30" heavy duty base with casters.

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12/10/2013:

This past Friday, I bought another Craftsman 150 floor model, DP#2 for a few parts.

This one was in rough shape. It took some effort to get the thing apart so I could load it in the car. The chuck is missing. I still may be able to get it, but I'm not sure how good it is. The cast iron base for the motor is cracked. There was a home-made belt and pully cover. It was actually done quite well, but they drilled through the head-band to install it. I believe everything else is decent.

I needed an original head-lock column jam nut for DP#1; the original was much shorter and was recessed into the dp head about 3/4".

I intend to part-out most other parts. Should I keep any parts for spares? What parts break or wear out the most? I only paid $40, so I can easily recoup my investment. Used parts are going for crazy money on ebay.

Very nice, you don't see many production table craftsman presses. That is like craftsmans version of the delta 15" production press. Where did it come from, a home or production environment? What did you pay for it? You keep mentioning that you thought you paid too much? :dunno:

I think I paid $150, but again that was before I knew what I had. Now, I think that was an awesome steal! Recently, just the slow-speed attachment sold on ebay for $222.50. http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-A...FOR-15-DRILL-PRESS-2-3-4-COLUMN-/221304229415
 
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Frank, what table does the other DP have? If the smaller one, put that on your column also, and you have a built in "handy shelf" for drill indexes and other drilling accessories; and if it is the tilting table, you can lower and swing the big guy out of the way, and setup with the tilting table...
 
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Frank, what table does the other DP have? If the smaller one, put that on your column also, and you have a built in "handy shelf" for drill indexes and other drilling accessories; and if it is the tilting table, you can lower and swing the big guy out of the way, and setup with the tilting table...

LOL! You beat me to the punch... that's where I was going with this thread.

It is the non-tilt table. I'm going to use the table for my refurb'd Craftsman grinder.

With my drill press in the open area of my basement, it will hang off the back side and should be at a good height.

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Keep all parts, even if cracked or broken.
Some of us my look for these from time to time.
Place ad in classified when you are done with this one.
Never know?
 
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Dp#2

Here are pictures of the donor 150 machine, model 103.24531 with the crown logo on the head band. It was originally gold. I didn't get a picture of the column, but it is probably 8" shorter than my dp above.

So, what spare parts should I keep? What parts do I sell?

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The label was removed from the motor and the base is cracked, but this thing purrs beautifully.

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LOL! You beat me to the punch... that's where I was going with this thread.

It is the non-tilt table. I'm going to use the table for my restored Craftsman grinder.

With my drill press in the open area of my basement, it will hang off the back side and should be at a good height.

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Thats what I did with my 150, used the pole and base from a crappy floor 150, the head, perfect non tilt table and variable speed motor from a very nice bench 150 and the slotted table from a 70's Craftsman drill press. The 70's press got the arc of shame table and got sold.
 

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That production table, in 1956, cost 23.50, which equates to just over $200 in today's money. On top of that, it is a rare accessory, so don't feel bad about the cost;). That, plus the multi-speed attachment, can both be found for more $$ than the drill press by itself.

That was a fantastic find. I'm still looking for my 100 series press. I'd love to find one with a production table, table raising accessory, and heck, I'll even spring for the ultra, ultra rare belt cover.

Thanks for sharing!
 

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That DP/Grinder combo will be awesome when finished. Do you think it'll maintain sufficient stability with the grinder hanging out in the back?
 
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That DP/Grinder combo will be awesome when finished. Do you think it'll maintain sufficient stability with the grinder hanging out in the back?

That won't be a problem. The caster base I have the dp attached to weighs as much, if not more, than the dp base.


My problem will be tearing it down to install the table at the bottom.

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The new old table cleaned-up nicely with Bar Keeper's and a Scotch Brite sponge.

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Drill Press Grinder Stand?

I mocked-up the grinder install on the dp#2 spare column and base. The table is sufficiently focked up that drilling new mounting holes for the grinder will not bother me. The table height is at 40"... a very comfortable working height.
 
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I mocked-up the grinder install on the spare column and base. The table is sufficiently focked up that drilling new mounting holes for the grinder will not bother me. The table height is at 40"... a very comfortable working height.

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That is a great idea! I like it. And you can keep up with the spare parts!
 

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I'm totally canibalizing the next DP I find that is unusable with the proper sized column. Love it!
 

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GREAT idea with the grinder! First time I have seen that!

Even better that the grinder is a "block"...

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Yeah, I like it too.
Where did you get that light?
Did it come with the grinder?
I have one almost like it on my craftsman drill press.
Just put one sort of like it on my Delta bandsaw.

The light was a standard feature on that and other models. The light normally would have a plastic cover and they are often broken off. I used a handle from an old pot lid so I can move the light while it's hot.

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I cleaned-up the feed stop from the donor machine dp#2 and replaced the original feed stop on dp#1. The donor has a rapid adjust, but is missing the original lock screw. A 1/4-28 bolt works just fine.
 
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I was comparing my lift to another and thought that mine was assembled incorrectly. But after opening it up and inspecting it, I believe it is correct.
The gear passes through the bottom of the box and the collar under the box locks onto it. The gear has a spline that free-floats in the keyway on the screw. The bearing at the top is carrying the weight of the table.

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Dp#3

I just picked-up yet another Craftsman 150 drill press Friday, DP#3. This one is equipped with a non-working 113.23440 variable speed motor.

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I don't know where to begin getting this motor repaired, or whether it's worth it. Any ideas? I have another motor I can use for the dp, but it would be nice to get the variable speed motor back to work.

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that drill is very nice i hope mine looks that nice when done, you have a couple options on yours i would like to have the table lift and the slow speed option,
Very nice set up.

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Franklee, I have two of those variable speed motors, one came on my 150 drill press and works great. If you get it working pay attention to that "Duty Cycle low speed intermittent" warning I popped the little circuit breaker on mine, thought I killed it at first. Luckily it started working after resetting the button.

The other one I have is going on my 80 bench model, it's a slightly different model that is reversible. It has a reconditoned tag on it as well, got it for about $30 at an estate sale in a Craftsman motor box.
 

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Some pictures of mine to help out Frank.

Frank, that rectangular silver piece appears to be an aluminum heat sink, held on by two self tapping screws. There is a plastic edging on the one end so it won't short out the board if pressed down.
 

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Some pictures of mine to help out Frank.

Frank, that rectangular silver piece appears to be an aluminum heat sink, held on by two self tapping screws. There is a plastic edging on the one end so it won't short out the board if pressed down.

Thanks! That helps a ton! I do have the heat sink and removed it for the photos.




3/8/2014

So, I gave up on the variable speed motor, I just couldn't get anything going on it. Too bad... I wanted to get it working.

Anyway, I've been working on getting the dp#3 in post #27 cleaned up and back in service. I've got it completely torn it down, new bearings have arrived. I'm waiting for warmer weather to degrease and clean the large cast pieces.

Here's what I ordered for bearings:


and what I received.


11mm W x 35mm OD, x 5/8" ID (15.875mm). The XF121PP was the old bearing number. I'm not concerned with the coo.
 
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Craftsman 80/100/150 Drill Press Spindle Washer and Quill Bumper Replacement Set

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Spindle Washer and Quill Bumper Replacements

I have three of these drill presses and on every one, the quill gasket (part #23) has either been shredded or missing. Also, the rubber washer (part #19) on this machine was too large; either swelled or replaced by a previous owner. So, I found substitute parts; O-rings, which work great!

 
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Custom Feed Handles

Next, this drill press has a chipped feed handle, so I experimented with a stubby screwdriver handle as a replacement. Two more to go.

 
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You are now addicted to the 150's! What did you do with that craftsman motor with the cracked base??

I thought about getting it brazed, but don't have a good source for that.

My short term plan so far, is to stack three nuts on each bolt on the underside of the base. This will lift the motor base slightly off the mount to eliminate the pressure on feet of the base. Longer term, I'm looking for another motor.


My next step is to get the columns cleaned up. There have been lots of good ideas. I just need to make and assemble the parts and pieces to spin the columns. I have two to clean.
 
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Frank, great resource. Thank you. The multispeed pages are especially helpful. I printed those out. I think I'll frame them and put them up on the wall next to the DP to add a little decor to the usefulness.

Neat idea for the grinder stand. And I like what Bar Keeper's Friend did with that table. I'm going to try that out and see if I can get a little more out of my clean up.


1. The multispeed pulley - I have one, pn 18812-103, but never took the time to figure out how it goes. This thread motivation is the time.

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I do not have the column collar that is required for the pulley. My DP is a 103.23130

Frank, do you have a picture of what this collar looks like?


2. Pulley belts - They should be 1/2" wide according to the Cman ppw also which you have figured out. An original belt was on mine when I got it. I ordered a Gates Hi-PowerII A42 in the same spec for the single belt setup. The Gates installed, the 1/2" almost seems a little too wide, but the original Cman belt is 1/2 x 44 (confirmed against the original catalog parts list). I figure it'll work itself in. You can see the contact wear on the new Gates belt in the photos.

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Well I'm an idiot. I looked at THIS THREAD then hopped up to test fit pulley in the column and it sat there like it belonged :badteeth: For some reason I was thinking when I put the pulley in the column that it would fall in. The collar is on the pulley, I just didn't know it.

Disregard my collar-asking questions. Looks like I can order my belts and get the pulley mounted.
 
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Well I'm an idiot. I looked at THIS THREAD then hopped up to test fit pulley in the column and it sat there like it belonged :badteeth: For some reason I was thinking when I put the pulley in the column that it would fall in. The collar is on the pulley, I just didn't know it.

Disregard my collar-asking questions. Looks like I can order my belts and get the pulley mounted.

Glad you got it figured out.

If you can swing it, an adjustable belt may work well for you. They run very nicely.... quiet and they go around that smallest pulley very smoothly. If you get the 5 footer from HF, you'll have enough for both belts and a few inches extra.
http://www.jasonindustrial.com/pdf/Accu-Link-Belting-Bulletin2012-3_1.pdf

Otherwise, I like belts that are notched on the inside so it can easily flex around the small pulleys.

I use a wrench on the flats of the pulley shaft to tighten the belt.
 
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