The Truck Tool Equivalents Thread - Gathering Data

ls1dreams · Jan 30, 2012

While searching for some good bang-for-the-buck tools, I've discovered that many of the tool truck brands can be purchased for about 1/2 price by going through their industrial brand.

I'd like to use this thread to identify some of the most common brands and tools for easy reference.

Here's my contribution so far.

Please add to the list. When we get a big enough response, I'll put together a master thread. Be sure to include an exact model number from the alternative brand.

The tool should be identical to the truck version, or at least 95% similar.

Snap-On
F80 Ratchet (1/4,3/8,1/2 80 tooth) - Bahco 6950,7750,8150
F936 Ratchet (3/8, 36 tooth) - Williams B-52EHA
FL936 Ratchet (3/8, 36 tooth, long) - Williams B-52EHLA
FLF936 Ratchet (3/8, 36 tooth, flex) - Williams B-52EHFA
1/4" versions are the same Williams model numbers with M- instead of B-
1/2" versions are the same Williams model numbers with S- instead of B-
Snap Ring Pliers - Craftsman 00950464000 - made by Strand. Same for Mac/Matco.
Locking Pliers - Grip-ons
Screw Extractors - Irwin/Hanson
Screwdrivers - many Williams models are identical ( need model # )
Deadblow hammers - made by Trusty Cook
Torque wrenches - CDI torque wrenches or Precision Instruments
Extractor Set E1020 - Ridgid 35585
Brake Caliper Press BTCP500 - Lang Tools #279
Mini butane torch - TORCH6
Butane soldering iron YAKS32A - Weller PSI100K
Plier / pipe wrenches PWZ0 - PWZ3 - Bahco 140-147
Snap-On A1310A bearing set - Astro Pneumatic AP7824 / Lisle 12980
Allen T-handle rack AWSTAND - McMaster-Carr 53045A36
Riveter kit HP200 - Marson 39001
Bit wrench BTWSMPK - Kastar KAS5220

Matco
88 1/4" Ratchet - Armstrong Maxx 88 (10-992)
88 3/8" Ratchet - Armstrong Maxx 88 (11-992)
88 1/2" Ratchet - Armstrong Maxx 88 (12-992)
Screwdriver set SSPCO5C/SSPCG5C = WITTE 663865
Matco DBPS260 Double Brake Pad Spreader - Lisle 25750 Dual Piston Brake Caliper Compressor
Matco 1/2" Quiet Impact Wrench (MT1769QA) - Ingersoll-Rand Quiet Impact Wrench (IRT2135QTIMAX)
ProSwing Ratcheting Wrenches - Armstrong
Fan clutch set - same as Lisle LIS43300
Diesel compression test kit (DCT1553) - same as Star Industries Kit (STRTU1553)
Serpentine belt wrench set MSBT15 - Gearwrench 3680
Impact wrench SE210 - Florida pneumatic FP-739

Mac
24" 1/2" Drive Flex Head ratchet - Titan, different handle
Mac Tools 13-Piece Impact Driver Set (SID13BA) - Stanley Proto 13-Piece Impact Driver Set (J7099A)
Mac Tools 32 oz. Antivibe Ball Pein Hammer (BH32AV) - Stanley 32 oz. Antivibe Ball Pein Hammer(680-54-148)
Mac Tools 16oz Antivibe Ball Pein Hammer BH16AV - Stanley 54-146
Mac Tools 3/8" Air Impact Wrench (AWQP380) - Sunex Tools 3/8" Air Impact Wrench (SUNSX4335)
Mac Tools 1/2" Impact Wrench (AW612Q) - Aircat 1/2" Impact Wrench (ACA1100K) or Nitrocat 1200-K (ACA1200K)
Mac 24" 1/2" Drive Flex Head - Titan ratchet with Mac handle. Other models also.
Mac Air Hammer AH520 = Ingersoll Rand 116

Non-truck tools, but decent brands made by cheaper alternatives
Nupla dead blow hammers are rebadged for Armstrong, SK, Craftsman and a few others.
Craftsman Adjustable pliers (Sears Item# 00945433000 | Model# 45433) are the same as Knipex Cobras

Would love to see some more posted! Especially looking for screwdrivers, wrenches, and other basic hand tools.

wornoutoldman · Jan 30, 2012

Great thread! Just google for best price and get shopping!

bobcatdan · Jan 30, 2012

When it is all said and done, there is only a handful of good tool companies and the same products cross different brand is pretty common. Look at Matco and Armstrong owned by Danaher, who also makes gearwrench, allen, napa, masterforce and craftsman wrenches. Stanley owns Mac and Proto, though the cross over is somewhat limited. SO owns Willams and even though Willams has been around longer the SO, their newer offers are mostly older SO designs, ratchets and screwdrivers being the main ones. Its good to dig, you may find some great deals we don't know about.

yaidunno · Jan 30, 2012

I cant provide part numbers, but another guy at work picked up a set of Craftsman files. They appear to be identical to my Mac files. Both are a great set of files. I've had my Mac ones for over a year and use them daily. They cut just as good as his new ones.

adamsredlines · Jan 30, 2012

Great thread idea.

I've been told that the Craftsman thread roller kits are identical to the SnapOn ones.

yaidunno · Jan 30, 2012

adamsredlines said:
Great thread idea.

I've been told that the Craftsman thread roller kits are identical to the SnapOn ones.

Yep, as far as i can tell all the re-thread kits are identical (matco, mac, snap on, craftsman) The plastic radiator hose pinch pliers from matco and craftsman are the same. 12 piece snap ring pliers are the same from mac to craftsman (huge price difference).

TRCOMBO-48 - Mac Rethread Kit
SPM6225206402- Kastar Rethread Kit

PK1250- Mac Snap Ring Pliers
00950464000- Craftsman Snap Ring Pliers

Im 99% sure that Irwin makes the taps and dies in Mac, Matco, and Snap On kits. So save a bunch by getting it right through Irwin.

There are a whole bunch of items that the trucks rebrand. Most all of it is good quality stuff, so theres nothing wrong with scoring it at a lower cost!

radgto · Jan 30, 2012

Irwin/Hanson also makes the bolt/screw extractors that Snap On and Craftsman sell... Craftsman calls them consumable and won't warranty but SO will send new ones right out so on something like that, it may be worth paying double if you break them a lot.

OTC makes Matco's posi-lock pullers.

Nemesis · Jan 30, 2012

ls1dreams said:
Snap-On
F80 Ratchet (3/8, 80 tooth) - Bahco 7750

Seems there are also 1/4 (Bahco 6950) and 1/2 (Bahco 8150) versions.

Schurkey · Jan 30, 2012

radgto said:
OTC makes Matco's posi-lock pullers.

I don't think so.

My understanding is that Posi-Lock makes the pullers for OTC and Matco...and others.

http://www.posilock.com/History/history.htm

OTC is on my shitlist. Bought a bunch of stuff about two years ago, with genuine OTC branding--not the imported-junk "Stinger" label. Every piece was Communist Chinese except for one made in Taiwan.

I don't think OTC "makes" anything any more. It seems like the whole product line is bought-in, more often than not from the most reprehensible country on Earth.

(The Posilock pullers being a wonderful exception to the Made-in-China majority.)

radgto · Jan 31, 2012

Schurkey said:
I don't think so.

My understanding is that Posi-Lock makes the pullers for OTC and Matco...and others.

http://www.posilock.com/History/history.htm

OTC is on my shitlist. Bought a bunch of stuff about two years ago, with genuine OTC branding--not the imported-junk "Stinger" label. Every piece was Communist Chinese except for one made in Taiwan.

I don't think OTC "makes" anything any more. It seems like the whole product line is bought-in, more often than not from the most reprehensible country on Earth.

(The Posilock pullers being a wonderful exception to the Made-in-China majority.)

I meant the Matco Autogrip/OTC Griplock ones... Chinese garbage.

poprockcrusher · Jan 31, 2012

O T C hit the skids years ago ..

ls1dreams · Jan 31, 2012

Anyone know if the Williams line of screwdrivers is the same as Snap-On?

kissmeimgerman · Jan 31, 2012

Matco Screwdriver set SSPCO5C/SSPCG5C = WITTE 663865 (different colors)

m_hatcher · Jan 31, 2012

ls1dreams said:
Anyone know if the Williams line of screwdrivers is the same as Snap-On?

They are the snap-on industrial version. Basically the same minus the name and price.

SpiderGearsMan · Jan 31, 2012

m_hatcher said:
They are the snap-on industrial version. Basically the same minus the name and price.

and delivery kid

ZRX61 · Jan 31, 2012

yaidunno said:
12 piece snap ring pliers are the same from mac to craftsman (huge price difference).

I have a 5 or 6(?) piece Craftsman set that I got on clearance for $32 (was about $90). ABSOLUTELY 100% IDENTICAL to SnapOn's $200 version (also Mac/Matco/Cornwall etc). They are all made by Strand. :thumbup:

blue dog · Jan 31, 2012

Nupla dead blow hammers are rebadged for Armstrong, SK, Craftsman and a few others.

Obie · Jan 31, 2012

Mac rebranded a few Titan ratchets. I'm not sure if they have the full line, but the 24" 1/2" Drive Flex Head is just a Titan with a Mac handle. Nice handle, but not worth the huge price difference for an import tool. Kinda wish I'd known that before I bought it. It was also one of my first Mac purchases, and I didn't even think to check where it was made.

GoBlue · Jan 31, 2012

Schurkey said:
I don't think so.

My understanding is that Posi-Lock makes the pullers for OTC and Matco...and others.

http://www.posilock.com/History/history.htm

OTC is on my shitlist. Bought a bunch of stuff about two years ago, with genuine OTC branding--not the imported-junk "Stinger" label. Every piece was Communist Chinese except for one made in Taiwan.

I don't think OTC "makes" anything any more. It seems like the whole product line is bought-in, more often than not from the most reprehensible country on Earth.

(The Posilock pullers being a wonderful exception to the Made-in-China majority.)

I like this guy! :beer:

nattyiceking · Mar 5, 2012

Mac Tools 13-Piece Impact Driver Set (SID13BA)
Stanley Proto 13-Piece Impact Driver Set (J7099A)

Mac Tools 32 oz. Antivibe Ball Pein Hammer (BH32AV)
Stanley 32 oz. Antivibe Ball Pein Hammer(680-54-148)

Mac Tools 3/8" Air Impact Wrench (AWQP380)
Sunex Tools 3/8" Air Impact Wrench (SUNSX4335)

Mac Tools 1/2" Impact Wrench (AW612Q)
Aircat 1/2" Impact Wrench (ACA1100K)

Matco 1/2" Queit Impact Wrench (MT1769QA)
Ingersoll-Rand Quiet Impact Wrench (IRT2135QTIMAX)

Matco DBPS260 Double Brake Pad Spreader
Lisle 25750 Dual Piston Brake Caliper Compressor

Anybody know where I can find the equivalent to this impact wrench?

http://www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/SE210/3-8-IMPACT-WRENCH/

gibbon_guy · Mar 6, 2012

As the thread grows the first post should be updated with the part numbers

ls1dreams · Mar 6, 2012

gibbon_guy said:
As the thread grows the first post should be updated with the part numbers

I'll try to keep up on this. Really wish these forums had the community wiki type 2nd post.

Hope you all are enjoying my contribution as an early poster to the forums.

garfunkle24 · Mar 6, 2012

ls1dreams said:
Craftsman 00950464000 - made by Strand.

ZRX61 said:
I have a 5 or 6(?) piece Craftsman set that I got on clearance for $32 (was about $90). ABSOLUTELY 100% IDENTICAL to SnapOn's $200 version (also Mac/Matco/Cornwall etc). They are all made by Strand.

Don't let a mistaken name break your stride.

Ed_EOD · Mar 6, 2012

Trusty Cook makes deadblows for Mac and SO

Irwin/Hansen makes tap and die sets

Matco proswing ratcheting wrenches are Armstrongs

Snap-on torque wrenches are CDI or Precision Instruments

Snap-on locking pliers are Grip-ons

Star makes a lot of the compression/leakage testers

Nickmm · Jun 25, 2012

Snap ons adjustable wrenches are identical to Bahco adjustables only difference is flank drive .

There is the bahco adjustable pipe wrench sold as a blue point tool. I found it. there are various sizes. mark up is significant.
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/bahco-1420-universal-pipe-wrench-430mm-65mm-capacity-p14912

already mentioned but heres links. Matco puller set made by otc. There is a COO and warranty difference is all.
http://www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/OTC4579/9-WAY-SLIDE-HAMMER-PULLER-SET/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015DMNIS/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Northern tool lifetime warranty of same product:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_19874_19874

I have seen many others, most of which are mentioned here.

JDS968 · Jun 25, 2012

MAC Tools DBC18B 18-Piece Disc Brake Caliper Set seems to be identical to the Harbor Freight 97143 Pittsburgh Professional 18 Piece Disc Brake Pad and Caliper Service Tool Kit, with the only differences being the arrangement and color of the blow mold cases.

ndoran · Jun 25, 2012

the snap on ECU425ABK Angle head fluorescent light looks the same as the one sold by Princess Auto

The J S Products (steelman) 97202 CHASSIS EAR with 4 WIRELESS SENSORS is the one sold by MAC.

The J S Products (steelman) 97170 ENGINEEAR ELITE is the same as the one sold by MAC

HandyManny · Jun 25, 2012

Anyone going into the automotive tech field or any service repair field these days can easily outfit himself with basic tools from other sources and still have excellent quality tools that will serve many years. Use the trucks for specialty tools or specific tool nobody else offers, but for everything else just go with OEM.

In another life as both a A/P mechanic and small engine mechanic I simply outfitted myself with tools from auto parts stores, industrial supply warehouses, and local hardware stores. Even Sears was useful in those days. I still own and use most of those tools today on my own vehicles.

Nickmm · Jun 29, 2012

Ok the bahco pipe wrenches I put p early are snapon\blue point tools pwz0 g, pwz 1 g or pwz 2 g. I've seen them both marked snapon and blue point.

As well, kastar and otc make various brake tools for drum brakes on diesel semi trucks and here are a few, many rebranded by matco, snapon, etc.
Kastar brake tool.
http://www.opentip.com/Tools-Home-I...k-Adjuster-Release-Tool-Wrench-p-2597413.html
Kastar brake adjustment tool. Extra long 7\16.
http://www.tooltopia.com/kastar-han...&utm_term=KAS7578&utm_campaign=googlebase_18u
Kastar brake gauge
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=280858248477
Otc brake tool
http://www.google.com/shopping/prod...gLYSo8ATnhaGAAg&ved=0CFgQ8wIwAQ#hsec:overview
Otc spring asembhly tool, all the trucks have their name on em
http://www.handsontools.com/OTC-5081-S-Cam-Air-Brake-Spring-Tool_p_8132.html

General list of brake tools
http://www.handsontools.com/Brake-Tools_c_713.html

tjmonsen5 · Jun 29, 2012

ZRX61 said:
I have a 5 or 6(?) piece Craftsman set that I got on clearance for $32 (was about $90). ABSOLUTELY 100% IDENTICAL to SnapOn's $200 version (also Mac/Matco/Cornwall etc). They are all made by Strand.

Snap-on makes their own snap ring pliers. They are not identical to the craftsman. Similar, yes. But not the same steel with a different pair of grips/stamp on them.

Nickmm · Jun 29, 2012

here's an interesting one. Best i could find was this one, but It was either matco or snap on that has a hard handle one just like this, instead of the soft handle.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...681983&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all

http://www.tooltopia.com/skew-ppr-5...se&utm_term=SKEPPR5330&utm_campaign=nextag_r1

I bet they do have something to do with the tooltruck screwdrivers.
http://www.spectools.com/faqs.htm

osborn.ozzy · Jun 29, 2012

MAC AWP050 = Facom NS.3000F

thejudges69 · Jun 29, 2012

ls1dreams said:
Anyone know if the Williams line of screwdrivers is the same as Snap-On?

I JUST bought these, the handles are identical and side by side the tips are the same also. The appearance is too. I thought I read somewhere that snap on took on the williams handles for there own use.

magova1104 · Jun 29, 2012

I work for 2 different shops. One, I have a regular Snap on dealer, prices are regular. The other shop is for the city, we have a Snap on Industrial account, most tools are the same, but different prices (cheaper) and they also carry Bahco and Williams, and some other brands as well. Just one example: the SSDMR4B ratcheting screwdriver is 61.95 plus taxes in the truck, with Snap on industrial it cost me, $35 no taxes( he he) and some other hand tools cost less money with Snap on Industrial.

MAD · Jun 29, 2012

tjmonsen5 said:
Snap-on makes their own snap ring pliers. They are not identical to the craftsman. Similar, yes. But not the same steel with a different pair of grips/stamp on them.

Snap-on has re-branded Stride retaining ring pliers as Snap-on in the past that were exactly the same as Craftsman (and others). More recently though, they were selling them branded Blue Point.

wafrederick · Jun 29, 2012

Matco's smoke machine is a rebranded Redline.Most of Cornwell's impacts including air ratchets are rebranded by IR too.Matco's screwdriver bits for the little powered driver's are rebranded Irwins,I compared my Matco set,the Irwin set my father has and they look the same although the cases are a differant color.OTC is going down hill,Bosch bought them out including Kent Moore,Robinair including the other companies previously owned by SPX.When Bosch buys companies out,they cut out support right away.

cundifc · Jul 4, 2012

Anyone have or use one of the cdi or precession torque wrenches? I need a new one but the cdi's are 1/3 the price right now on amazon.

Nickmm · Aug 10, 2012

Precision instruments torque wrenches, split beam clicker type are the old style of snap on ones. CDI torque also makes a few of theirs/williams ones.
http://torqwrench.com/tools/C.php
http://www.cditorque.com/

This is a good topic, there are so so so many rebadges on the trucks its crazy. I know of many but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

osborn.ozzy · Aug 12, 2012

http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_fee.asp

genevabuck · Aug 12, 2012

Nickmm said:
here's an interesting one. Best i could find was this one, but It was either matco or snap on that has a hard handle one just like this, instead of the soft handle.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...681983&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all

http://www.tooltopia.com/skew-ppr-5...se&utm_term=SKEPPR5330&utm_campaign=nextag_r1

I bet they do have something to do with the tooltruck screwdrivers.
http://www.spectools.com/faqs.htm

I've seen a lot of those products on the MAC truck.

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