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The Texas Barn, why such a name? Well, it all has to do with me being born and raised in Texas. Everyone in the neighborhood knows I’m from Texas and I talk about Texas all the time. Yet, I have no plans to move back to Texas. So, if I can’t move back to Texas then I’ll bring a little bit of Texas to Pa.

Now I’ve been in Pa for 15 years now and I’m no stranger here on the site. I’ve got another thread where I talk about my current garage which is a 62’x32’ size building. But, I knew deep down I wasn’t going to be staying in this current home.

Instead we decided we needed to move back to the home we previously lived in and go ahead and sell the current home. Only problem is, there’s no garage at the other home. So after planning, talking it out, laying out possible ideas, and talking to our contractor we finally pulled the trigger to start building a 32’x32’ garage with a ceiling height of 12’.

This project actually started back in April 2024. So, until I get caught up to current time, I’ll start telling the journey of building this garage.

In order to start the garage project, I had to get permits to build a garage in my yard. I knew I wouldn’t get any variation due to one of my neighbors. So it was critical to follow the ordinance to a T. So this started the first headache, having to build the garage 40ft back from the curb due to a setback rule. Due to the location, the new garage was going to be built on a hill basically. This will result in the back of the building floor being 5ft above the ground elevation. So, let’s start at the beginning and talk about that part of the journey.

Here is the site of the future garage. It’s hard to tell that there’s such a big elevation change here, but I assure you, there is enough to create an interesting situation.
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From the street looking at where the future garage front will be located.
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Here is a view from the corner of the property with the house in the background.
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After discussing the plans with the contractor, his son arrived to begin the digging of the foundation of the garage. Luckily I took the morning off for the first day of digging. The one neighbor I talk about that would cause me to not get a variance for the setback rule, came out of his house and started exactly what I knew he would do. He began telling me and the contractor I was not allowed to build anything in my front yard and he was going to write and call to the municipality to stop the work. I basically told him to do what he had to do, but I’m following all of the rules of the municipality and so the work will continue.

In the end, I’ve been reassured that the municipality has no issues with me building the garage and I can continue the work. Just ignore the neighbor and stay out of his way.

So, here we are with the trenches dug for the footer.
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A kin eye will notice a trench dug in the middle of that square hole. I will get to that trench later. But let’s talk more about the footer.

Some of these trenches were deep, one corner was 4ft deep to meet the depth requirements and some of it was due to the hill in the middle of the garage. But there was an elevation change from the right side to the left side of the garage and so that resulted in the corner closest to the house being 4ft deep.

Here we are with some poured footers in the trench.


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You can see where we stepped the footer from the back to the front.
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Now it was time to let the footer cure some and give the masonry some time to finish up another job he was on.
 
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So the Masonry made his way to my garage and started building the cinder block walls for the foundation.

Here is the first course!
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Then afew more days later he had the back wall built up a good bit.
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The view of the garage foundation from the back porch of the house.
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Oh look, there’s that middle trench getting a cinder block wall.
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I’m sure some of y’all have figured it out, but there’s a reason for the middle wall I assure you!

Here some more progress.
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Then one day, the elevation of the cinder block walls were at their destination.
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You can see where the mandoor will be on the left side of the front, along with two 10’x10’ doors will be installed in the middle and right side of the garage.

But what is that in the rear you say, is that I-beams?
If you asked that, you I would be correct.
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Due to the elevation from the street to the footprint of the garage, I’m having to do some serious filling of some voids under the garage. But, why do I have to fill it all up? Why not create a bunker in the deepest part of the elevation difference which is in the rear of the garage? So, after calculating the load and stress of the floor and planned toys with the suggestion of another engineer. We decided that a 32’x12’wide room, (I believe was the dimension) , can be built in the back half of the garage. The I-beams will support a steel deck in order to pour the concrete floor above the bunker. I will have to dig out the floor of the bunker some more, but the final height will be 5’6’ between the beams. This will be fine for storing lawn equipment and anything else I need to store out of the way. I also plan to put an air compressor in this bunker when the time comes.

Here is the rear of the garage with the 5’x4’ opening to the bunker.
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Finally the dirt crew came back and filled the front half of the garage void with 2B stone and back filled around the garage after installing a French drain and the downspout piping around the building.
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I plan to pour a driveway beside the right side of the garage to park my car trailer and bass boat.
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The back side of the garage again.
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This is how it sat over the summer. For two reasons, to let everything settle and compact some and to save up some money for the next stage of the project.
 
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As I mentioned, the rear part of the garage will have a steel decking on top of the I-beam. Stange as it might seem, it was a little difficult tracking down the steel decking in Pittsburgh. You would think being in the heart of steel country, there wouldn't be a shortage of anything steel. Eventually I did locate the correct steel decking via a company that headquartered in Georgia but had storage locations through the US. Luck would have it, that one of those storage facility was located in Pittsburgh. After a short drive there and back with my car trailer, I was able to bring the steel decking back to the garage with no issues.
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That steel decking was really long, and it took some creative support on the rear to keep the decking from flexing while going down the highway. I went ahead and unloaded the decking close to where I will be installing it to reduce the walking back and forth during this project.
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Then it was time to get the rebars and wire mesh. Instead of using steel rebar it was decided to use fiberglass rebar. It seems to be a popular material used in the industry so no concerns with the material switch.

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All unloaded.
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Then it was time to lay out the decking. Overall, it wasn't a bad experience. Just lay out the long pieces, properly overlap them, cut down the next section of panels, and screw them all together with self-tapping screws.

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I also used silicone just to seal the edges against the cinder block wall to keep concrete from seeping out of the gap. Following the guideline of the engineer drawing for the suspended floor of the garage, I began laying out the fiberglass rebars. There was quite a bit of tying going on, but this is something I can do to keep the cost down. After several days I was finally finished and was ready for the concrete.

First two rows of rebar,
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Here is the photo before concrete was poured. Wire mesh was placed all throughout the floor area and on top of the rebars.
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Why not create a bunker in the deepest part of the elevation difference which is in the rear of the garage? So, after calculating the load and stress of the floor and planned toys with the suggestion of another engineer. We decided that a 32’x12’wide room, (I believe was the dimension) , can be built in the back half of the garage. The I-beams will support a steel deck in order to pour the concrete floor above the bunker.

Interesting solution. I'm assuming there is a overall height restriction?
 
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Interesting solution. I'm assuming there is a overall height restriction?
you are correct, 15' from the middle of the roof height to the floor. If I was to build a full-on basement, it would have changed the requirements. But also, I didn't want to make the building any taller or dig any deeper. So, I compromised and did this little bunker I call it. Soon, it just might be the safest spot on the property during a tornado.
 
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Then came the big day, Concrete.

The crew came in and poured most of the morning and was power troweling it by lunch time.
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Then later that day they came back and saw cut the lines in the concrete.
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So much concrete was poured, due to being 7 inches thick in the rear and 5 inches in the front.
The heat it generated was also a nice feeling on the cool day.

Once the concrete was done, this was how it sat during the winter. This was October of last year.

During the winter it was a case of waiting for money and planning for the next stage of the project.
 
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During the winter, I took the time to draw up a simple easy to follow layout of the wall. The goal was to match the house as close as I could. So, the roof was to be built with the same hip style roof but was a 4/12 pitch. With the 4/12 pitch I was able to meet the height limitations and still have a 12’ ceiling height in the garage. I also planned to have the same style of windows as the house but just bigger due to the size of the walls of the garage.

I also wanted windows in the garage door to give me some natural lights. I do plan to put UV reflective window tint on the windows of the garage, but I wanted some light to come.

With the limited resources of the current software I have, I came up with this profile.

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The layout of the walls.
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Pretty simple really, standard 16” O.C. Wall, engineered truss hip roof, and standard door opening.

With the budget shored back up, I had the contractor begin his work and they started March of this year.

Here the progress of the walls going up. They built the walls and raised them up on the foundation wall.
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Another view. Partly blocking the openings to get an idea of what it will look like completed.

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Another view of the wall.
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This angle you can see the elevation difference and why things look so high.
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After another day of framing they got the front wall framed and up.
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And the backside.
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Looking good Cody. Congrats on the new/old place and building your new shop. I like the idea of storage under the floor. The negates the need for another outbuilding at a later point for storage of OPE and such. Great idea with the layout of the property.

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Thanks! The extra storage under the floor really helps to make up the difference between the 62’x32’ garage to the smaller 32’x32’ garage. There is also a 15’x34’ attached garage on the house, so that garage will be the wife’s parking spot and most likely the wood tool area. The back yard area is going to get regraded and spruced up with flowerbeds, fire pit, and beautified as it will be an escape spot for us. The rest of the yard which is huge still will be scalped and leveled, along with flower beds and shrubs to beautify the big yard area. Some big plans for the house and yard, as I hope to build it up and make it easy to maintain as I get older.
 
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Coming from TX, I'm fascinated by the floating / elevated build here and the differences in foundation design. Thanks for sharing.

It’s different here in Pa that’s for sure. Coming from West Texas I didn’t have to deal with the hills and elevation problems like I do here in Pa. But I will say, the homes I lived in were floating homes really. The last house I lived in while in Texas had a crawlspace that was 2’ deep. Wasn’t a lot kept down there except snakes and critters that found a hole somewhere…..
 
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After another day for framing and sheathing, the guys got the walls done.
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Not a lot of waste was generated during this build so far.
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Here is the view of the yard from the windows of the garage.
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About this time, the roof trusses showed up. Which was perfect timing as the GC was planning to put the trusses up the week after and he was going to rent a crane to set the big stuff up there.
 

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After another day for framing and sheathing, the guys got the walls done.
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Not a lot of waste was generated during this build so far.
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Here is the view of the yard from the windows of the garage.
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About this time, the roof trusses showed up. Which was perfect timing as the GC was planning to put the trusses up the week after and he was going to rent a crane to set the big stuff up there.
Congrats on the shop build! Wish I had thought to do a bunker on mine. Its 7 ft deep at the rear corner.
 
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Congrats on the shop build! Wish I had thought to do a bunker on mine. It’s 7 ft deep at the rear corner.
Thanks!

Currently the bunker still requires me to do some digging on the inside, but for the cost of the beams and steel decking I’m not too far from the cost of the stone that would have went inside it. So it became a no brainer to just do the bunker over filling it completely with stone.
 
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Is it a plane? Superman? No it’s a Crane!
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It didn’t take them long to get the big pieces up.
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Then it was the small pieces of the system and hand cut part of the roof frame,
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Pretty wild to see those two stacks of sheath up on the partly finished roof frame.
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Before we knew it, the roof was closed in and the building was under a roof for the first time.
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No plans to store anything in the attic space, and it’s a good thing too cause it’s not an open design.


The waste pile has grown some more, but it’s not too bad considering what was built.
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Soon as the roof was closed it, another crew came in and got the shingles up lickity split!

Before shingles,
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I got this photo early that morning,
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By lunch time they had the majority of it done!

Then I came back after work and saw they were done all the way.
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The roof turned out really good and it even matches the house roof too! House roof is roughly 14 years old so soon it will get replaced. Most likely it will get replaced when we rip the flat roof off to put a hip roof over the back porch.
 

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Greetings from Australia. I'm enjoying your build so far.

I'm really surprised that your suspended slab was poured with only those I beams holding up the steel decking at what must be about five-foot centres. Any suspended slab I've seen poured down here required much more substantial temporary underpinning at much closer centres to hold it all up until the reinforced concrete dries and develops its own self-supporting strength.

Anyway, keep the updates coming please.
 
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At this point, the work on the garage fell back on me to do. Due to budget I couldn’t pay to have everything done by professionals. Luckily I know how to install vinyl siding.

First thing first I needed to trim out the doors and install the mandoor.
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I also got the j channel and corner trims installed so I can put the siding on around the doors.

I’ve been thinking of a barn color and it’s always been in my mind to give a garage a barn treatment. With the trip to Lancaster at this time, I saw the Amish barns and got to liking the red color that I saw on most of those barns.

So I picked out a Russet Red for the siding color. Added bonus was the color was a good match to the reddish brick walls of the house.

Here’s the first two rows installed.
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Then I progressed to the garage door height.
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Then I got as high as I could with the ladders I had without putting the ladders on the siding.
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Just missing the top trim and last row of siding.

Then I started on the other walls and got the siding as high as the bottom of the windows opening. I had to wait for the windows to get installed due to the waiting for manufacturers to build them.
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Backside,
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To mount to downspouts to the wall, I used these mount block trim with pieces of vinyl boards on the inside. The board was screwed to the wall before placing the trim over it.
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I was even able to get the wall with no windows all the way to the top almost. IMG_6329.jpeg

Sadly I had to take seven rows off this solid wall due to some rows not being tight enough for me. But I tackled that issue later.
 
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Make sure that noisy neighbor of yours doesn't come grab any of your scrap wood. Dont want him having the satisfaction of building anything with your stuff.
Funny you said that. I didn’t mention my neighbor right next to me. She came out that first day hollering also. Saying how I should have told them I was building a garage and what’s the plan was. But those two neighbors were really the only one in the dark about the project. Everyone else in that neighborhood already knew and they all were waiting to see how it goes down with these two neighbors. On the second day of the foundation work she asked my GC if she could get a 5gallon bucket of dirt from the dirt pile and he told her, “You will have to ask Cody for the dirt, otherwise I have to ask you to stay off this property ma’am.” 🤣😂🤣

I haven’t talked to her since that first day. But I’m sure she’s going to ask for help with something in the future, as she’s always had ask me for help and I usually help in the past.

This also explains why on one side of the garage, I didn’t want any windows installed. I don’t want to be accused of peeping on the old lady from my garage. Even the back window view to her yard is blocked by the big bush/tree between our yard so it worked out perfectly!
 
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Greetings from Australia. I'm enjoying our build so far.

I'm really surprised that your suspended slab was poured with only those I beams holding up the steel decking at what must be about five-foot centres. Any suspended slab I've seen poured down here required much more substantial temporary underpinning at much closer centres to hold it all up until the reinforced concrete dries and develops its own self-supporting strength.

Anyway, keep the updates coming please.

You and me both! Another reason why I had a hard time finding steel decking was due to the specific type of steel decking needed. This steel decking was thicker and shaped differently then the more common steel decking that’s stocked in supply houses. Everyone sold it, but they didn’t have it in stock.

This steel decking is able to handle more weight as long as the support isn’t spaced too far apart.

So between me and another engineer we were able to determine the beams and steel decking was able to handle the load based on the specs provided by the steel decking manufacturer. Also when the foundation wall was built, they built a lip on the wall where the steel decking was able to be supported at the edge. This added more support under the steel decking.

Even though mine and the engineer’s math was good, I was still anxious the day of the pour as I was waiting for the call that it had collapsed. The contractors was telling me this was the most reinforced decking they seen for a project this size and was shocked by how much rebar we spec’ed out. I explained there will be two cars, a truck, and a 4 post lift on this garage and half the weight of everything will be on this suspended slab. So there’s going to be a lot of weight involved!
 
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Nice build. Are you using a ladder or a lift to put up the siding?
Ladders with ladder jack and a plank between two ladder when I got to the very top. Otherwise I just had 5 ladders spaced out on the wall as needed and I just went up and down those ladders. My fitness tracker was recording 100+ flight of stairs due to how much I was climbing those ladders.

Oh and I did this job by my self for 96% of the time. Wasn’t til the last row did I have someone there to hand me the trims for the top section.

I was doing my best to stay off the vinyl siding until the very top.
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Then I just had to pad up the end of the ladder and placed them on the siding.
 
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Not a lot of waste was generated during this build so far.
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Looking good Cody. I remember doing the siding on my last shop, 34' x 34'x 14'. My next door neighbor owned a siding supply house and he offered to give me a hand showing me how to do siding and then I did the whole thing. I was able to match the siding on the house perfectly, other than the house was aluminum siding and the shop was vinyl siding, but appearance wise they were a match. Worked in that shop for 25+ years before selling at it still looked great with only the occasional pressure washing a few times a year.
 
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Very interesting build and a very nice looking building. I have that same color on my garage, but with red trim.After 16 years it has faded a bit, but still looks good.
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Thanks!

I paid for the premium siding so hopefully the fading is to a minimum. I do expect it to fade some tough.

I almost went all red, but then I thought it would be too over whelming with the size of the garage and being in the air as high as it was. Plus, the house had white trim, so I wanted to match the house as close as possible.
 
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Looking good Cody. I remember doing the siding on my last shop, 34' x 34'x 14'. My next door neighbor owned a siding supply house and he offered to give me a hand showing me how to do siding and then I did the whole thing. I was able to match the siding on the house perfectly, other than the house was aluminum siding and the shop was vinyl siding, but appearance wise they were a match. Worked in that shop for 25+ years before selling at it still looked great with only the occasional pressure washing a few times a year.
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Hopefully with the premium siding, the siding will stay in good shape. I figured if I got 30 years from it, then it was worth the price! My first experience with vinyl siding was when i sided the playhouse. It was good practice and learning experience for the bigger projects. Then it was the porch roof addition and it's still in good shape.
 
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Finally the windows came in and they got installed. I put flashing tape around the windows to seal them up.
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Then it was a race to finish the siding. I got all of the walls up to the last row of siding and the final trims at the top.

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Then it was a case of setting up two ladders with padded ends to protect the vinyl and putting the ladder jack on them. Set up the plank and this allowed me to work a full 15ft span without having to move the ladders.

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Finally, after waiting a month for the garage doors, they arrived and due to the cost of the door plus installation, it was worth letting the crew install the doors instead of me manhandling the doors and tracks in place.
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And with that, the garage is now dried in. This is how it currently sits as it just passed its final inspection for the building permit. Everything else is third party inspection so municipality isn't too concerned with the rest of the building progress.

With the bad weather we had, there's a lot of folks without power today so I'm sure it will be a little while before the electrician can even come look at the building and get the new electrical panels installed. So, for now, it will sit and give me a chance to catch up on other tasks around the house!
 
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Thanks!

Hopefully with the premium siding, the siding will stay in good shape. I figured if I got 30 years from it, then it was worth the price! My first experience with vinyl siding was when i sided the playhouse. It was good practice and learning experience for the bigger projects. Then it was the porch roof addition and it's still in good shape.


I think you'll be fine using the premium vinyl siding. I too used the premium and although mine was a lighter color, it still looked almost new after 25+ years. This was a picture I used for the real estate listing back in 2016 after the shop being built in early 90's.

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Very nice building. There’s always that neighbor no matter where you live.
Thanks!

Yea that one neighbor called code enforcement within 3 days of me moving in with my wife. I had a set of tires sold and kept them on a trailer in the yard to take to the buyer that afternoon. I was told I was not violating anything as long as the tires are gone within 5 days. That neighbor called on me about my registered, insured, inspected 1979 bronco that I had parked on the gravel parking area of the yard and told code enforcer I was 12 inches in the street. There's no ordinance that prevented anyone from parking on that street, instead he just didn't like it and wanted the bronco gone. That same neighbor asked me for help several times and I extended the olive branch by helping him, just for him to turn around and bad mouth me behind my back to the other neighbors who doesn't have a problem with me. There's more scenario like that, but like you said, there's always one in the neighborhood. Then there's his niece who is my neighbor right beside me, who does the same thing.
Why am I moving back here you say? Cause my wife likes the neighborhood, so I'm not going to let them two dictate what we do.
 
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