Above 1200 Sq/FT Garage Refurb®

NUTTSGT · Sep 10, 2010

EDIT: I'm in the process of updating the "broken internet" compliments of PB.

Well, it has begun. We bought this house and garage over 10 years ago. My garage like in some previous posts started life as a service station, in 1937. One of the things I've wanted to do from the beginning is pour a new floor. The current concrete is spalled and rough. When it rains hard, I occassional get water inside because it's so low.
The planets have finally aligned in my favor. While I have everything out, I figured it was the right time to repaint the walls. I'm going to go with white to try and brighten it up.
First order of business, move everything out.
Here's the back room, which was empty. Basically a storage room and houses the air compressor.

Another shot of what all has to come out,

along with the back corner of the garage.

NUTTSGT · Sep 10, 2010

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Now that little back room has four bare engine blocks plus another shortblock and a transmission plus more. I failed to remember how much junk I have.

One of the first things to come out was my tool box and step-dads box. Along with the press and one big *** wood burner. The press moved fairly easy with a two wheeled dolley. The tool boxes, weren't bad, as I had help from my loving wife (a round of applause for her please). The wood stove was a beast, 500 pounds I'd guess. I, along with the wife, got the wood stove on a couple of mover's dolleys from HF. Then they rode on the plywood express.

Here's the two sheets of 3/4" plywood. I leap frogged one sheet after another. I told the wife this is how they built the pyramids.lol

NUTTSGT · Sep 10, 2010

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Almost empty.

a gaggle of **** that I had to move, you can see that the back room is slightly full. As I was moving stuff, I had to keep in mind if I was going to need it during the refurbish. parts washer, blast cabinet, welder, welding table, the list goes on

Since It's getting a new floor, raised 4" the work benches had to come all the way out. I can't believe what a pita this was.

When I insulated the back walls, I sheet right down to the bench top. So the OSB and insulation had to be moved also.

NUTTSGT · Sep 10, 2010

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The back half of the garage had been added on many years ago. When they did, they added the black I-beam. One end sat on a 2x6 and 2x4. I was never keen on that but it worked. I decided to spruce it up a bit and take them out replace them.

basement jack in place. You can also see the window I bricked up when we bought the place. They sided the outside with T-111, but left the window in place. I don't claim to be a mason either. ha ha ha

New double 2x6 beam in place. If you notice the gap on the right side, that was another WTF moment. Apparently they laid the block for the addition right up to the old asbestos siding and cut a hole in the back wall. I had to recut the siding boards for the 2x6s to sit flush. A 45 minute job turned into a 2 1/2 hour job.

NUTTSGT · Sep 10, 2010

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Same view as above but a slightly different angle.

Notice switch/outlet hanging out of the wall? Well they previous owner had wired the bench outlets out of that box. Since the bench was gone, the wiring needed to go too. Not to mention the 14 gauge wire. I've done some rewiring in the garage and knew it was feed by a 14ga wire but was planning on replacing it. Now was the time.

I used a 2x6 (old bench top) as a nailer for the new work bench. I wanted to get this in place so I could screw the OSB back onto the walls. That's one less thing in the way. I've shortened the bench up by a foot and a half, to keep it away from the woodburner. Something I've been thinking about for a while.

Since I'm raising the floor, it's going to make the cabinets to close to the benchtop. So they will need to be shortened. No big deal but they will have to come off the wall and I wonder what surprises I will find.

I had to remove all the insulation in the back corner too. I'm glad I screwed the OSB on instead of nailing it on. Here's a before pic, I will have to get an after pic.

The current to do list for now,

shorten wall cabinets
remove a fan mounted up on the wall (to push warm air down in the winter, 14' ceiling)
paint
probably level out the ceiling in the back corner ( a screw up years ago)

JC23 · Sep 10, 2010

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You hang in there, NUTT,

It's always tougher to re-do sh!t than build new. But at some point, the work will turn from old to new. That's when your afterburner will kick in and you'll see some real progress!

Where is Sulphur in Ohio???

NUTTSGT · Sep 10, 2010

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Oh believe me, I know all about redo-ing ****. I'll have to scan a pic of the house when we first bought it and one now. I'll try to do the tommorrow, along with a couple of outside pics of the garage.

Sulphur Springs is about an hour north of Columbus.

Keith_MN · Sep 11, 2010

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:scared:

Are those PVC air lines? :scared:

NUTTSGT · Sep 11, 2010

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Keith_MN said:
Are those PVC air lines?

yes, I have PVC airlines.

EDIT: "had" PVC airlines due to a future upgrade.

NUTTSGT · Sep 16, 2010

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Sorry for the lack of updates. I've had a few unscheduled work days that threw off my schedule. I've accomplished a few things, I removed the wall mounted fan, no pictures, sorry. It was nothing more than a box fan mounted on a shelf. I took it down for repainted and future plans of lowering the ceiling.
Since I was raising the floor and work benches, it put the wall cabinets only about 8" off the workbench top. They needed raised up and the story continues.

Here's where it starts, you can see the nailer for the future work bench in place. I figured I could remove the bottom shelf and that would work. So I took off the doors.

More junk that I had to move. This is where I realized the bottom shelf was taller than the rest, which I needed for books and spray bottles/ aerosal cans. I added a nailer to the wall and some 1 1/2" styroam insulation (there wasn't any behind the cabinets).

Once I started looking at one of the cabinets, I noticed the sides were in poor shape and needed a little work. Apart thatcabinet came and I built some new sides of 3/4" plywood and dadoed them out to for the shelves to slide into.

I'll be making the doors tomorrow out of 1/2" plywood and trimming them with strips made from 2x4 (1/4" thick)

NUTTSGT · Sep 16, 2010

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Some guys have asked about pics of my garage when I've mentioned it being an old sevice station, so I'll add a few of when we bought the house and garage. Afew of the old are scanned pics I uploaded and not sure how the size will be.

The garage when we bought it. Notice a few windows that have been removed.

What it looks like now.

After the new floor is poured, I have doors that match the house garage to put up.

A view from the back.

From the other side.

I'd like to close in this corner and bring the roof (to match the other roof)out over the current roof and basically make it a outdoor accessible shed and get a few things out of the house garage, garden trailer, push mower, shovels/rakes. That'll hopefully be next spring.

Rockey · Sep 16, 2010

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Is that a 4 eye I spy? You must be fairly close to Norwalk.

I like the garage. It has a bit of the old service station nostalgia to it.

NUTTSGT · Sep 16, 2010

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And to show what I had to start with on the house too. I told the wife to look at the potential of the property and think of what it could look like.

Same angle as above, just newer. I tore down the old garage, added a 24x32 onto the house, fancied the outside up with some siding, windows and new roof.

In the beginning.

I ripped off the old porch and gave the wife the wrap around porch she wanted.

We bought the front door about 2 years before we put it in, she picked it out. Then she tried to explain what she wanted the steps to look like. I couldn't understand what she was talking about . . . "curved, you know go around" I was like "huh?" :headscrat

I told her to draw a picture. This is what she wanted, and I gave her a nice big sidewalk to match it.

NUTTSGT · Sep 16, 2010

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Rockey said:
Is that a 4 eye I spy? You must be fairly close to Norwalk.

I like the garage. It has a bit of the old service station nostalgia to it.

Yep, 86 GT and about 40 minutes to Norwalk.

A few winters ago in the garage. I got bored. :lol_hitti

NUTTSGT · Sep 21, 2010

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Well things haven't been working out to good lately and progress has been horrible. Things just went to **** today and I was stressed and about 10 shades of pissed.

I was going to rent a cut off saw to cut the concrete but figured I'd use a circular saw with a masonary blade. It worked before but it's hard onthe saw. So now I have Skil saw that I can use for "junk" work and keep my Dewalt circular saw nice.'

I used two box fans to push the dust out of the garage as I cut.

Here's a little progress.

My step dad came over with a water level today, we marked the perimeter for the concrete. I had it figured to pour 3.5" at the very back of the garage, which is higher. I knew there would be some low spots as the floor sloped. I didn't realize just how much til today.

Keep in mind the back will be 3 1/2" thick. (that pic disappeared FOUND ) This is at the northeast corner.

yep, that's 6 1/2 inches, I think I'm going to need more than the 13 yards I originally figured. . . . and that's how my day started. I'm planning on pouring Saturday, hopefully I can get some stuff done tomorrow.

colt zantop · Sep 21, 2010

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wow..nice work! I love the old station! I do have one problem though......DONT GET RID OF THOSE DOORS ON THE OLD STATION!!! they look period correct...just paint them to match!!!

klogan121 · Sep 21, 2010

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Regarding heating your shop, what style of woodburner you using- 2 55 gallon drums, a potbelly stove, or a unit with a built-in fan? I'm leaning to wood burning as a source of heat for my pole barn and was just curious.

Nice resto on the house!

Kevin

NUTTSGT · Sep 21, 2010

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colt zantop said:
wow..nice work! I love the old station! I do have one problem though......DONT GET RID OF THOSE DOORS ON THE OLD STATION!!! they look period correct...just paint them to match!!!

Sorry, those doors are junk, rotting at the bottom and one has a broken spring causing it to have to be held open with a post. I already have doors to put on, they match the doors on the house garage except no windows.

NUTTSGT · Sep 21, 2010

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klogan121 said:
Regarding heating your shop, what style of woodburner you using- 2 55 gallon drums, a potbelly stove, or a unit with a built-in fan? I'm leaning to wood burning as a source of heat for my pole barn and was just curious.

Nice resto on the house!

Kevin

It's a big monster. You can see it in this picture. According to my neighbor, it's an old boiler type wood burner. It puts out the heat. I can try to get a better picture tomorrow.

I love burning wood, it's good exercise to cut it, cheap, and puts out the heat. Between gas for my truck, gas/oil for the saw, maybe a chain and some lunch, I might spend a hundred bucks to heat my garage in the winter.

EDITED. Here is a better pic of it.

JC23 · Sep 22, 2010

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Diggin the old gas station vibe as well as all the great work on the house. NICE!

You going to make the front of the shop look like an old shop with a sign or stuff like that?

jktruck150 · Sep 22, 2010

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That place is awesome! You have a good deal of work, and it shows! I see properties all the time where I tell my wife.. "I can fix that!" She says she can too, with a bulldozer. Some just don't see the potential. I am glad yours did! Nice shop!

NUTTSGT · Sep 23, 2010

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JC23 said:
Diggin the old gas station vibe as well as all the great work on the house. NICE!

You going to make the front of the shop look like an old shop with a sign or stuff like that?

Nah, just going to try to make it look more like the house. I have enough people stop now and ask for directions. :beer:

Besides that, there's too many low lifes in the area.

NUTTSGT · Sep 23, 2010

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jktruck150 said:
That place is awesome! You have a good deal of work, and it shows! I see properties all the time where I tell my wife.. "I can fix that!" She says she can too, with a bulldozer. Some just don't see the potential. I am glad yours did! Nice shop!

When we looked at the house, I told the wife to look at the potential. She couldn't quite understand til I actually drew her a picture (seriously) or sketch of what the house would look like with a porch on it like she wanted.

Joe From NY · Sep 23, 2010

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NUTTSGT said:
The back half of the garage had been added on many years ago. When they did, they added the black I-beam. One end sat on a 2x6 and 2x4. I was never keen on that but it worked. I decided to spruce it up a bit and take them out replace them.

New double 2x6 beam in place. If you notice the gap on the right side, that was another WTF moment. Apparently they laided teh block for the addition right up to the old asbestos siding and cut a hole in the back wall. I had to recut the siding boards for the 2x6s to sit flush. A 45 minute job turned intoa 2 1/2 hour job.

i would replace the wood with brick or steel. you might put a chain hoist on that beam someday.

NUTTSGT · Sep 24, 2010

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Sorry Joe, that though has been abandoned years ago. The beam is only 7 feet off the ground, too low and once the benches are back in place, too close to them.

NUTTSGT · Sep 24, 2010

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My neighbors came over with his Cub Cadet that has a loader bucket. It made pulling up the black top easy.

Everything dug out, drilled some holes for the rebar.

Even cut back some of the siding and door trim.

NUTTSGT · Sep 24, 2010

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Here's what it look like from the outside this morning.

Here's a little closer shot, you can see the rebar in this shot. I'll try to get a better shot of the rebar today, as tommorrow it will be covered with concrete.

aqr81 · Sep 24, 2010

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Eric, this place looks awesome! You have been working your @$$ off and it really shows. The house looks great, what an improvement. I'll bet the wife loves the porch. The shop is outstanding...love that it's an old service station, lot's of appeal. It's too bad those doors are rotten and beyond salvaging. It would be nice to keep them. Keep up the good work Eric. :thumbup:

markviii · Sep 24, 2010

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Lots of great work on this project which fulfills your vision! I congratulate your wife for her vision as well. The wrap-around porch and the front stairs were a great addition to the house. It's also nice having your working garage close to the house, but not attached. We have the same problem with people stopping by the shop asking for directions or help from the mechanic. No windows on the restored garage is also a good idea for security. We finally learned on the newest buildling we completed this year.

Having "the vision" is an awesome thing. Tom (BB767) and I have been married 35 years. It took about 15 of that to finally give in to his "visions". It's amazing how what he sees in his head come to reality with lots of hard work. Our son helps him with some of the heavy lifting.

I finally learned to pitch in and help in my limited way - which was mostly keeping out of the way and taking up the slack with other necessary work he wasn't finding time to do. I now do most of the maintenance on our 5 apartment buildings and around the house while he restores/improves the 5-acre property where we'll build our retirement home in the next few years. Three years ago I helped rake in 3 acres of grass seed (and I do the watering to get the grass good and established while he's away).

Chris

NUTTSGT · Sep 25, 2010

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Well, it's been a long two days. I was trying to get stuff ready to pour and other stuff, trying to do stuff the hard way. I got to bed last night (this a.m.) at about 3.
I dug out the back corner for a future "shed" project, but forgot to get a pic after it was poured, I'll get one tommorrow.

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We poured (had to wheel it to the back)the offset in the back first, then worked that side forward to the door. Here's my father in law bull float it out.

Another view, with my BIL Jim in the background, and my other BIL Pat floating out the angle in front of the door.

Here's a shot of me, smiling my *** off, (I never show my teeth when I smile, but I'm so happy right now that I am) and happy to finally getting my new floor. I have been waiting several years for this.

NUTTSGT · Sep 25, 2010

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Jim and I discussing who had the bigger loads.

I think the wife was checking out my ****. LMAO, literally.

My FIL running the power trowel while Pat floats and trowels the edges where the power trowel can't reach.

NUTTSGT · Sep 25, 2010

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Man, I hope whoever designed and built the first front dump concrete truck is a millionare, these things make pouring concrete easier. What's even better is having a GOOD driver that works with the crew rather than some that want to dump and go.

As Pat was troweling out the edge by the door and had it nice, we got a slight bit of a surprise. Bode, our yellow Lab thought he was going to go see Pat.

16.5 yards down and sealed, my lower back is sore, my hands, feet and legs hurt, and basically wore out. I hope I can stay awake to watch UFC 119. Time to relax.

rmousir · Sep 25, 2010

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that is super cool! Great job!

bigblue02hd · Sep 27, 2010

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Nice job man!!! Congrats on getting the new floor poured!

jktruck150 · Sep 27, 2010

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Looks good! Did you leave Bode's prints or smooth them back out?

NUTTSGT · Sep 28, 2010

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WE smoothed the prints back out. Having a spot like that in the concrete where water can collect and freeze in the winter is something I did not want.

Thumper · Sep 29, 2010

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Awesome place... :thumbup:

NUTTSGT · Oct 5, 2010

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Thanks Thumper.

Not much been going on the last few days, work, rain, rain, work, rain.

I did form up and pour a step going into the bathroom and another that goes from one side of the garage to the other.

The next big step is pouring the apron out front. I want to put an overhang on the front of the garage. When I do this, I want to set a couple of 4x4s oneach side of the garage doors to support it. I bought some Portland cement and a ton of sand, already had the stone. I fabbed up some rebar and wire reinforcement to put in the tubes to make the columns.

Since it's been raining, I started to get the inside repainted. I'm trying to lighten it up, from the gray to white. There's alot of trimming to do, what a pain in the ****.

ocejo · Oct 7, 2010

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lets see some shots of the foureye too

NUTTSGT · Oct 13, 2010

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I've been working too much lately to hardly anything done. I worked Thursday, Friday, off on Saturday and back in on Monday and Tuesday. Those were 24 hour shifts, sometimes it makes it difficult getting things done.

I dug the holes for the columns to sit on, for the future over hang. Dropped the rebar in and poured the concrete.

Here's the reinforcement in side the tube forms.

After they were poured, I tore off the cardboard tube down to ground level. I dug out more of the crappy black top and formed up the front of the apron.

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