SmokesLeave it. There is no inspection that requires passing for a sale.
If it comes up with the buyer's inspector, deal with it in negotiation.
I meant that would impact that electrical.Smokes
Even if HI report mentions it, it carries no weight.Ok
Will leave it see if the home inspector says anything.
Thanks for the replies.
I see no problem with this wiring HOWEVER the private home inspector can "flag" this and "IF" you want to close the deal the buyer wants this fixed or in most cases they want money at closing.Looks no different than wiring in unfinished basements.
Inspection at sale? Private home inspector can pound sand.
Yes. but only if they stayed at the 'Express' the previous night.I just realized.......HI = Home Inspector = Holiday Inn.
Is this a connection we have been missing for years
Usually, the ventilation lineup in port kept all the pesky buggers out, but occasionally, while underway, a resilient one would magically appear after days/weeks underway and it became a hunt to capture it and see how long it could be kept as someone's pet.Home inspectors have the same value as a screen door on the hull of a submarine.
But their reports can put a stop to the sale, even when it's something stupid like when I sold my house. The report said the sump pump was inoperable. It didn't have a sump pump; there was a pit, but the house was a walk out basement with a daylighted drain. I had bought a pump when I built the house 10 years earlier so I took it out of the box and put it in but made sure the first thing anyone saw when they pulled in the driveway was the discharge pipe. He also got me for having the garage door sensors on the ceiling, a little bit of bell wire, some wire nuts, and some staples took care of that.Home inspectors have the same value as a screen door on the hull of a submarine.
Sometimes I would get a call from a seller and said the home inspector flagged no AFCI's on my 30 year old and tells me this is a violation so I had to explain that given the age of the home AFCI's were not required at that time and the buyer wants money back toward closing fees……. There are now 3 options on the table:
1) You can fix it.
2) You can give the buyer money at closing.
3) You can tell the buyer and their inspector to "pound sand" and potentially loose the sale.
So here is a POTENTIAL scenario for the OP and I ask what would you do if you were the seller:so instead of calling out the ignorant inspectors report and staying your ground, the option is to just tell them to pound sand
BTW option 1 makes no sense as there is nothing to fix. it is code compliant
Not every.BTW! This kind of BS happens on every home sale.……. The worst "charge backs I have seen is when at the closing table (after the walk through) the buyer demands $1500 to have a professional cleaning crew come in because the buyer did not do a good good cleaning and left some gardening tools in the garage.
TRUE!…….. It all depends on the housing market and how "motivated" the seller is.Not every.
I sold my last house with a full inspection waiver and bought my current one waiving anything under either 5 or 10k, can't remember which. This will depend on how hot your exact market is, but houses in my neighborhood are still getting multiple offers, so I expect inspection waivers are still not uncommon
So here is a POTENTIAL scenario for the OP and I ask what would you do if you were the seller:
Clearly this is NOT a violation but the buyers "ignorant/over zealous" home inspector flags this as a violation (to justify his job) and writes up this issue on his report and tells the buyer to either have the seller "fix this violation" by installing a piece of sheet rock or to request a $500 check at closing to hire a contractor to sheet rock over the "exposed wire violation"….…… And the closing of the home sale hinges on these two options or the deal is done.
BTW! This kind of BS happens on every home sale.……. The worst "charge backs I have seen is when at the closing table (after the walk through) the buyer demands $1500 to have a professional cleaning crew come in because the buyer did not do a good good cleaning and left some gardening tools in the garage…….. Sometimes the "charge back demands" are even higher if there are scraped up walls or dirty carpets from the movers.
FACT! Uneducated over zealous home inspectors and a "chiseling/picky" bad buyer is a home sellers worst nightmare.…….. The "fine art of negotiation" will always win most of the time.
You can always walk away from a sale.The HI's report is bogus and therefore invalid. why should deals be negotiated with bogus paperwork and inspections? im not gonna let someone pushed me around with BS.
I had to fork over ~$2500 because a HI flagged a few things. One of them was a 12"x12" patch of mold on the sheathing in by attic. The mention of mold just about killed the deal. My agent said once a house gets tagged as a 'mold house' you can't sell it. Cost me $1500 to get it remediated. The company I hired said it was not a big deal. The mold was harmless and they removed it with dry ice pellets. They said the HI overreacted.So here is a POTENTIAL scenario for the OP and I ask what would you do if you were the seller:
Clearly this is NOT a violation but the buyers "ignorant/over zealous" home inspector flags this as a violation (to justify his job) and writes up this issue on his report and tells the buyer to either have the seller "fix this violation" by installing a piece of sheet rock or to request a $500 check at closing to hire a contractor to sheet rock over the "exposed wire violation"….…… And the closing of the home sale hinges on these two options or the deal is done.
BTW! This kind of BS happens on every home sale.……. The worst "charge backs I have seen is when at the closing table (after the walk through) the buyer demands $1500 to have a professional cleaning crew come in because the buyer did not do a good good cleaning and left some gardening tools in the garage…….. Sometimes the "charge back demands" are even higher if there are scraped up walls or dirty carpets from the movers.
FACT! Uneducated over zealous home inspectors and a "chiseling/picky" bad buyer is a home sellers worst nightmare.…….. The "fine art of negotiation" will always win most of the time.
For what? They identify an issue and then the homeowners decide what to do with it.sounds like some HIs need to be sued
sounds like some HIs need to be sued
And the home inspection reports I get at the day job all include “weasel words” telling the customer to consult with a professional….For what? They identify an issue and then the homeowners decide what to do with it.
The bigger issue is the **** they miss
umm they call out "issues" that are not actually issues or code violations. thats a bogus claim and fraud. thus they should be suedFor what? They identify an issue and then the homeowners decide what to do with it.
The bigger issue is the **** they miss
OK.umm they call out "issues" that are not actually issues or code violations. thats a bogus claim and fraud. thus they should be sued
Bogus yes.umm they call out "issues" that are not actually issues or code violations. thats a bogus claim and fraud. thus they should be sued
OK.
Have you ever read a report and the disclaimers in them? Or is this just a crusade that you want to wage?
Sounds like you have a solid casea disclaimer doesnt release someone from fraud
just like a disclaimer doesnt release someone from liability
Fraud is very difficult to prove. In civil cases it's considered a "specific intent" issue meaning the plaintiff must prove that the individual acted with the conscious objective to deceive another party.a disclaimer doesnt release someone from fraud
They say that they're not "code inspectors" and get around being sued by telling the customer to "consult a professional to verify"umm they call out "issues" that are not actually issues or code violations. thats a bogus claim and fraud. thus they should be sued
Respectfully, how much time do the Sparkie's spend keeping up with code? Then there is the IRC, IBC, local requirements. Expecting them to be an "expert" for a few hundred bucks seems "unreasonable".They claim that they're not "code inspectors" and get around being sued by saying "hire a professional to verify"
Not to mention all the non-electrical stuff they have to review.Respectfully, how much time do the Sparkie's spend keeping up with code? Then there is the IRC, IBC, local requirements. Expecting them to be an "expert" for a few hundred bucks seems "unreasonable".
This above. Drywall easy and quick.That might pass a real inspection, it might not depending on the inspectors interpretation of protected from physical damage. A home inspector is not an inspector. I've seen a few like that and when asked what to do I tell them to put some paneling or drywall over the cables. Outa sight, outa mind. The other option would be to put it in conduit, or wait until the inspection and see if it gets flagged.
Hopefully you have an attorney and expert witnesses who would take the case "pro bono" and even then the law suit will be ******* in court for months or even years AND what would you be suing the HI for?……. A "professional" opinion?sounds like some HIs need to be sued
Hopefully you have an attorney and expert witnesses who would take the case "pro bono" and even then the law suit will be ******* in court for months or even years AND what would you be suing the HI for?……. A "professional" opinion?
I don’t know about the legal system where anyone lives but in New Jersey (aka: SUE JERSEY) before you get into see the judge you must go through court required mediation and this is where both parties are losers and the attorneys are the winners.…….. "IF" there is no resolution on mediation the case goes before the judge and in most cases he sends you back to mediation after the judge tells both parties to get it resolved or the case gets tossed out of court.
BTW! Factor in your time away from work and the aggravation the system will cause you.
This is the first time I've seen a HI on a job, it turns out that he's married to the selling agent.