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John Deere x730 60" mower deck damage

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On Monday I attempted to mow my lawn for the first time in 2026.

Due the very high grass, I raised the deck to make cutting easier. I ran the mower for about 15 minutes without issues. I heard a loud bang followed by a lot of grinding noises. I thought I might have hit something, but I can't see any rocks or metal anywhere in the area where the problem occurred.

I took pictures of the underside of the mower based on advice from the grounds maintenance manager for the local gun club. He was in the area when the breakdown occurred. He's pretty familiar with tractors and mowers. He took a look at the mower after the rear part of the mower deck fell off the mower.

He mentioned that the setup on the mower looked incorrect. He said the depth control bracket should be positioned above the drive shaft. On my mower, it is below.

This caused the depth control bracket and the shaft to collide when the PTO was engaged and the deck was raised. He felt this probably caused the problem.

As you can see from the photos, the drive shaft ate into the depth control bracket, causing it to fail, resulting in the back part of the deck disconnecting from the tractor.

Both the drive shaft and the depth control bracket have significant damage. Based on the damage, this may have been going on for a while.

This dealership had the mower for 2 weeks last season. They replaced the mower drive belt. They told me it had been installed incorrectly and was damaged as a result. It was covered under my warranty. That was the last time the deck would have been removed form the mower. I have never pulled the deck. The mower has ~50 hours on it.

The mower has been sent in for repairs, but they're telling me they can't look at it for 4 weeks. I tried to show these pictures to the dealer, but they absolutely refused to look at them. Kind of pissed me off. The guy was incredibly rude. I'd take it elsewhere, but it's the only JD dealership in the area.

I'd appreciate any input on this. I'm just trying to understand what might have happened here so I can have an informed conversation with the dealer.

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Check your operators manual for deck installation instructions. If you don’t have it find it for free here
Techpubs.deere.com
 
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Check your operators manual for deck installation instructions. If you don’t have it find it for free here
Techpubs.deere.com
I do have it. It's not super clear. It talks a lot about the bracket, but not the drive shaft placement.
 
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The pictures may be a bit misleading about heights and positioning of the deck and drive shaft.

The rear deck is disconnected and the mower is up on a jack, so the picture perspective may be a bit wonky.
 

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The drive shaft is supposed to be above the lifting bar (8:15 time stamp.


The latch/lock wasn't engaged correctly and the rear of the deck came loose and fell.
 
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Thanks for the video. I couldn't find that one.

I'm still confused as to what might have happened.

From what I could see, the latches were in the correct position and appeared to be locked.
 

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Thanks for the video. I couldn't find that one.

I'm still confused as to what might have happened.

From what I could see, the latches were in the correct position and appeared to be locked.
Will say that the latch "could" have been tripped by a stick or other debris in the grass. Unlikely but mowing tall grass is always fraught with danger of unseen objects. Most of the time, just as the video shows, the latch sometimes fails to self latch and the operator misses it hooking up
 
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So If the deck falls off due to a latch and the deck height is changed by the operator, it can cause a collision between the drive shaft and the lifter arm?

Seems like a really bad design.
 

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So If the deck falls off due to a latch and the deck height is changed by the operator, it can cause a collision between the drive shaft and the lifter arm?
Yes.
Seems like a really bad design.
Its not a bad design. No design can eliminate all possibility of operator error. Its been around for a long time and is fairly robust. Plus its a lot easier to hook up than many other designs. Its main fault is that its too easy to hook up and many parts are automatic. This makes operators complacent and not check everything correctly. Other designs required much more operator performed steps that could be missed.

I am not a fan of shaft drive decks. Obviously a belt would have more than likely just shredded with the same mistake but it is a garden tractor and not a mower only so shafts are better for snow blowers, brooms, and front mounted flail mowers.
 
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I don't think there was any operator error here. I just mowed in tall grass. It wasn't even that tall.

Seems like the setup is too sensitive. My old JD 455 had a pin that connected everything together. That would never fail like this. Also, adding a limiter to keep the parts from colliding doesn't seem like it would be that hard to figure out.

I'm probably looking at $1000 in repairs.
 

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I don't think there was any operator error here. I just mowed in tall grass. It wasn't even that tall.

Seems like the setup is too sensitive. My old JD 455 had a pin that connected everything together. That would never fail like this. Also, adding a limiter to keep the parts from colliding doesn't seem like it would be that hard to figure out.

I'm probably looking at $1000 in repairs.
The J pins on cub cadets and John Deere 400 series tractors did fail. Both people not getting them back quite right on one side and also the springs breaking over time. Neighbor had one spring fail on his 425 which I think had the exact same set up that a 455 had (I have never been under a 455). Of course it didn't have the cross bar that got into the drive shaft like yours but it also wasn't a quick connect deck nor a drive over deck, you had to turn the wheels and drag it out side ways, not bad on concrete but a pain on any other surface.
 
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Spoke to the JD dealership. $1,250 for the repair. New drive shaft and lifting bracket plus they're going to sharpen my blades while they're at it. I should have it next week. At least they're not making me wait the 4 weeks that they originally told me.

They still can't tell me what happened. They think the locking mechanism popped open somehow, causing the deck to fall off. When I instinctively tried to raise the deck, the drive shaft and lifting arm collided, causing all the damage. Sounds like they've seen this before.

Still seems like a bad design, but at least I know what not to do if it happens again.

My plow guy said he could mow the lawn for a few weeks, so at least the jungle will be kept at bay. The rain this year has been insane. He's sworn off of JDs. He told me to buy a zero-turn Kabota. :D
 
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I had the rear deck latch bar unlatch once...you don't want that to happen ever! No damage though.
I got to looking more carefully at the two latches.
They both had factory holes drilled thru them into the deck supports.
Well...I reconnected the deck quick enough and found a couple "D" stype spring pin clips to fit into the two side holes.
Now the latches are permanently locked in place until I remove the deck for my X758 tractor winter use each year.
Never can the deck unlatch using the locking pin clips.
The rear latch bar goes under the pto shaft...
 

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The JD X7 series garden tractors are the top of the line "Signature" Series tractors.
Only problem I've ever had in six years with my Diesel X758 AWD was this same issue...fixed it in 30 minutes with the locking pins.
JD is pretty much the only one left today still making a H-Duty garden tractor of 950- nearly 1200 lbs.
 

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Reading another past thread on b-boy x730 problems....
Who ever prepped his tractor did a very poor job.
Bracket fell off the deck (never fully tightened).
This machine uses a manual pto shaft...not the Auto Connect set up.
Pretty simple...pretty trouble free.
The AC setup is much more complicated to adjust during setup.
Looks like the machine was being used a while to cause all the pto shaft damage.
It also looks like the rear latch inter-connecting rod is bent/twisted. That will possibly cause improper tension on the two side latches causing premature releasing of the rear of deck.
This...letting it fall down, wobbling dragging completely loose under the machine.
Possibly that 1/4" x 40" long rod caught by something and bent it slightly.
Is there a possibility that the machine is being used in a very harsh manor....rough ground, too fast, debris IDK.
I hope the 4 week out dealer is capable of repairing the issue properly.
 

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Odd fail for sure! Thought at first your machine was missing that spring on the left side, then see it's there in the pics.

2016 X758 owner here with a 3pt hitch and PTO.

Pay attention to deck level. Look at your front hanger for a gap between that and your deck. That front hanger snugs the deck forward.
 
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I can't believe the OP could not have heard the noise that had to come from the contact between the drive shaft and the lifting bar for the amount of time it would take for that much damage to occur. :dunno:
That damage happened in about 15-20 seconds. That drive shaft was spinning fast and I'm assuming that the lifting bar was not the best quality metal. I jammed the hydraulics up as far as they would go because I thought the deck hydraulics had failed and I tried to raise it. At the time, I had no idea that the deck had dropped off the mower.

I heard the grinding and I shut the mower down, but at the time I had no idea what exactly was happening. It probably took some time for the drive shaft to spin down.

This tractor is definitely not as well built as my old one. The metal is much thinner everywhere.
 
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Reading another past thread on b-boy x730 problems....
Who ever prepped his tractor did a very poor job.
Bracket fell off the deck (never fully tightened).
This machine uses a manual pto shaft...not the Auto Connect set up.
Pretty simple...pretty trouble free.
The AC setup is much more complicated to adjust during setup.
Looks like the machine was being used a while to cause all the pto shaft damage.
It also looks like the rear latch inter-connecting rod is bent/twisted. That will possibly cause improper tension on the two side latches causing premature releasing of the rear of deck.
This...letting it fall down, wobbling dragging completely loose under the machine.
Possibly that 1/4" x 40" long rod caught by something and bent it slightly.
Is there a possibility that the machine is being used in a very harsh manor....rough ground, too fast, debris IDK.
I hope the 4 week out dealer is capable of repairing the issue properly.
The dealer pointed to the bent rod as the most likely cause. They thought maybe a tree root or a piece of wood might have caused the problem.

My yard is rough. Lots of hills. That's why I bought such an expensive mower. I'd burn through a regular mower in a few years.
 
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b-boy

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The JD X7 series garden tractors are the top of the line "Signature" Series tractors.
Only problem I've ever had in six years with my Diesel X758 AWD was this same issue...fixed it in 30 minutes with the locking pins.
JD is pretty much the only one left today still making a H-Duty garden tractor of 950- nearly 1200 lbs.

Where did you get the locking pins? Do you have any more details on them?
 

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Tomorrow I'll post a pic..
Tractor supply or any good hardware store should have suitable clasp locking style pins.
1/4" diameter.
 
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